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[stolpioni]

I recently got into this "supplement thing" after reading two books: The Mood Cure as well as The Ultramind Solution.

 

Both of these books recommend that you supplement with L-Tyrosine as well as L-Tryptophan/5-HTP.

 

I've been doing this for a while now. I love the effect I get from L-Tyrosine (makes me motivated, clear-headed etc).

 

Why isn't more people taking these supplements? After reading these two books, it would seem that they're both some

kind of miracle drugs. Isn't it good to fill up your dopamine and serotonin storages?

 

Reason I'm asking is because I haven't seen one person except myself that has any of these two supplements in their

daily stacks. So my question would be, why? Are they dangerous? Not effective enough? What's the deal?

Edited by stolpioni, 27 April 2014 - 07:22 PM.

[BlueCloud]

Not sure why you think it's unpopular. If you do a search, you'll find plenty of threads about Tyrosine in the Brain Health section.
Both of them are not something you would want to supply every day however, for reasons of homeostasis and tolerance.

[Absent]

I take Tyrosine when I *think* I need more dopamine, but the results seem to be pretty inconsistent/ not noticeable most of the time.

 

I believe the cause of this is that when people incorporate stronger noots into their stacks, they can sometimes overshadow and mask the less overt ones, such as tyrosine and tryptophan. Plenty of people use tyrosine regardless, but its "marvel" effect does seem to disappear pretty quickly if you take it often.

[Duchykins]

Not so much unpopular, but I think a lot of people around here have concerns with adverse effects of taking certain things regularly like tyrosine, L-dopa, 5-htp, phenibut, picamilon, others, and these concerns are genuine. However I also think you are right about the 'stronger' and more glamorous substances, I've noticed for myself that a lot of the simpler, more basic supps like lysine, taurine, magnesium or zinc are overlooked and I think this neglect of the basics is causing trouble for many using nootropics.

On a personal note, I avoid tyrosine because some of it eventually becomes tyramine, which causes wicked migraines. And altough 5-htp is in my cabinet, I use it irregularly, in small doses, and typically only before bedtime to improve sleep quality, otherwise it can downregulate serotonin.

[Absent]

It is important to note that these "basic" things are often times found in an abundance in a regular diet, with the exception of a few of them. This can make supplementing them a redundant and meaningless task often times. 

[Duchykins]

It is important to note that these "basic" things are often times found in an abundance in a regular diet, with the exception of a few of them. This can make supplementing them a redundant and meaningless task often times. 

This is very true. For those who are attentive to their diet and lifestyle, including getting quality sleep, the bulk of those are unnecessary. Unfortunately it seems from my experiences here and a few other forums that a good portion (mostly youth, but not saying most) neglect their diet and lifestyle, use noots to try to make up for it, do awesome at first but end up imbalancing their neurotransmitters further or depleting this or that, and then wonder why they're a nervous (or exhausted) wreck. It doesn't hurt to remind people to build a solid foundation.