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[lordbaal1009]

This certain strain of reuteri (for what ever reason) is incredibly potent. The study I read used the term "robust sex-dependent health"

 

 

Boost testosterone levels and testicular size (robust male reproductive health)

http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC3879365/

Increases oxytocin levels (social grooming, wound healing)

http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC3813596/

"Shiny hair" " "Glow of health" aka anti-aging

http://www.plosone.o...al.pone.0053867

 

As one might notice this strain is incredibly potent and with the right prebiotic mix you might be able to permanently colonize it. Imagine something like that permanently being in your gut? I looked everywhere for this strain, but can not seem to find it! I was hoping other people on here would show interest and together be able to possibly find how to acquire this certain strain..

 

Here is some info on it from reddit - it is much more in depth

http://www.reddit.co...cillus_reuteri/

http://www.reddit.co...euteri_strains/

 

edit: examine page: http://examine.com/s...cillus reuteri/

Edited by lordbaal1009, 08 May 2014 - 09:39 PM.

[Jeoshua]

It's also found in the digestive tracts of almost every animal tested, already. They're just not extremely competitive, and get out-competed by other lactobacilli very easilly.

[GoingPrimal]

Yeah, I'd be interested in how to maximize this strain.

[lordbaal1009]

It's also found in the digestive tracts of almost every animal tested, already. They're just not extremely competitive, and get out-competed by other lactobacilli very easilly.

Do you know if humans have this specific strain? Then hypothetically all we have to do is take a prebiotic mix to maximize it.

 

Yeah, I'd be interested in how to maximize this strain.

If we already have this strain in our body all we have to do is take prebiotics. I take resistant starch, inulin, and p. husk at the same time, so probably something like this would maximize it; although I know certain strains are fed best with different prebiotics.

[Jeoshua]

As far as I understand it, the experiments being done here are on a specific strain of Reuteri. I didn't mean to imply that this specific strain was in us, already, only that research on Reuteri and most reuteri supplements do not contain this strain, as far as I am aware. Most probiotic supplements don't specify which strain, and most don't contain Reuteri, at all. Plus, a prebiotic supplement would only serve to improve the health of all intestinal flora capable of digesting whichever supplement you are thinking about, and as such Reuteri (and maybe not this strain) may or may not be helped at all, as you mentioned briefly.

[chemicalambrosia]

This company says it plans on releasing a product with that strain: http://www.biogaia.com/future-launches

Its been under future launches for a few months now. You might ask them when it is going to be available.

[Mr.No]

https://www.swansonv...fos-60-veg-caps

[Jeoshua]

https://www.swansonv...fos-60-veg-caps

 

But which strain of Reuteri is in there? And does it really matter when there are so many other strains in that probiotic that might outcompete it? I'm sure it's a great probiotic, but it's not really the same thing as ATCC PTA 6475, and therefore wouldn't have really the same effects.

[DbCooper]

Been taking this one for about 2 months now   (1/2 hour before my first meal) http://www.amazon.co...eywords=Reuteri

 

and at night taking Soil Based Organisms (SBO). Its should  be noted that if you read the whole study they confirm that L. Reuteri is simply working through anti inflammatory pathways so my thinking is  if you already have low levels of inflammation it may have no observable effect.  

 

Also is this not a source as well? http://www.atcc.org/...l/PTA-6475.aspx

 

Lastly, breast milk can be purchased on Craigslist cheaper than soda, as many women are classified as "overproducers."

Edited by DbCooper, 17 May 2014 - 12:22 PM.

[Deep Thought]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Edited by Deep Thought, 17 May 2014 - 12:42 PM.

[nickdino]

Im bumping this, excited about this! Anymore on this??

[lordbaal1009]

Im bumping this, excited about this! Anymore on this??

 

As someone mentioned above it seems the effects are due to its anti-inflammatory properties. To be more specific an increase in il-10 and/or decrease in il-17. The only thing that I know that can have a similiar effect would be intermittent fasting (I forgot whether it increases il-10 or decreases il-17, but it was very significant). As far as getting our hands in 6475 it seems unlikely at the moment; unless someone is willing to buy it off http://www.atcc.org/...l/PTA-6475.aspx or try breast milk. I have emailed the owners of this strain (bioaga) several times and they won't mention the release date of Gastrus (which is the product that has this strain)....

[nickdino]

damn, thats too bad. let's get some hype, some movement on this. Altough i have yet to take a supplement that really does any noticable good for me, i still keep looking out for stuff that does. This may be very promising, isn't it so that gut optimization has not been pursued much yet in the medical world?

[DbCooper]

I wonder how much they give you here http://www.atcc.org/...l/PTA-6475.aspx

 

 

​Because this is the actual stuff they were putting in the mouse water if I recall correctly.

Edited by DbCooper, 23 May 2014 - 01:39 PM.

[perceivethinkact]

You can't order from the ATCC without BioSafety Level 1 or above certification.

[niner]

You can't order from the ATCC without BioSafety Level 1 or above certification.

 

Seems like more than you should need for something that you're planning on eating...

[Edogawa Rampo]

where can be buyed Biogaia gastrus http://www.biogaia.c...ogaia-gastrus-0.

 

Or another probiotic reuteri ATCC PTA 6475

Edited by Edogawa Rampo, 17 October 2014 - 03:02 PM.

[PerfectSeek]

I contacted biogaia about gastrus and it's only available in China/Korea right now.  They have no immediate plans to release in the US.  Oddly enough, I have some non-acidic reflux issues which are made MUCH worse by the other biogaia product (L. Reuteri DSM 17938).  The Gastrus product includes both DSM 17938 and the ATCC 6475 strains.

 

Reuteri is certainly interesting as far as probiotics go.  

 

 

[oppenheimer82]

very interesting. could we start a groupbuy?

[UniqueNewYork]

http://www.biogaia.c...biogaia-gastrus

 

Released. Lactobacillus reuteri ATCC PTA 6475

[adamh]

http://www.biogaia.c...biogaia-gastrus

 

Released. Lactobacillus reuteri ATCC PTA 6475

 

What does it cost? I see no prices let alone shipping cost. Any time they won't tell you what something costs and you have to ask for a price, its usually in the stratosphere.

[UniqueNewYork]

I'm pretty sure there are no distributors in North America....yet. Should be a few more months.

Edited by UniqueNewYork, 31 December 2015 - 10:21 PM.

[drew_ab]

Very interesting stuff indeed.  If anyone is able to purchase some or has any additional feedback, please let us know. I'll be following this thread closely.

[uekte]

http://farmacialoreto.it/

 

Italian pharmacy offering Biogaia Gastrus with worldwide shipping option.

[The Brain]

Couldn't see a price or what the count of that strain was ?

[uekte]

Couldn't see a price or what the count of that strain was ?

 

Really, did you search for the product in question?

 

The price is listed as €15.75 (around $17 or £11) for 18 tablets. Obviously shipping will vary depending on your location.

 

With regards to strain count, BioGaia suggest '200 Billion CFU' however, the product is a combination of Reteuri (ATCC PTA 6475)  and Reteuri 17938. 

[The Brain]

Yes I searched and found all the other variant products besides the one posted here but there was no pricing or even a feature to buy any products.

Whether that's an issue because I'm on a mobile device or not I don't know.

[Iporuru]

 

Couldn't see a price or what the count of that strain was ?

 

Really, did you search for the product in question?

 

The price is listed as €15.75 (around $17 or £11) for 18 tablets. Obviously shipping will vary depending on your location.

 

With regards to strain count, BioGaia suggest '200 Billion CFU' however, the product is a combination of Reteuri (ATCC PTA 6475)  and Reteuri 17938. 

 

 

Unfortunately, it's just 200 million CFU of both strains, not billion
 

[zevahc]

Just received mine today , here's the packaging if anyone is interested

http://imgur.com/a/jXHOa

[Heisok]

Thanks for sharing that it got to you in what looks like the U.S.. If you do not mind saying, how much did it cost with shipping?

 

At 200 Million CFU, I would be inclined to try and make a batch of probiotic yogurt with a couple. Increase the dose. I have had excellent results with 24 hour incubation of several single and multi-strain probiotics. I currently make 3 gallons of milk worth per week of Bifidobacteria Infantis NLS (Natren) and Lactobacillus Plantarum 299V which I strain to make 2 types of a Greek style probiotic food. I eat some of each several times per day.

Edited by heisoktoday, 05 January 2016 - 04:16 AM.