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[Florian Xavier]

show me  a proof that low strenght men are more integrated than others please.

 

Plus in a darwinian sense low strenght men are basicaly the target of alpha-wannabe.

Edited by Florian Xavier, 31 May 2014 - 01:31 PM.

[Brafarality]

show me  a proof that low strenght men are more integrated than others please.

 

Plus in a darwinian sense low strenght men are basicaly the target of alpha-wannabe.

 

Cannot show proof of that. Can only point to strong evidence that, for better or worse, a whole bunch of males in Westernized nations are succumbing to the pressure to be ultra-thin. Not sure if any of them are properly integrated, though.

[Florian Xavier]

Ok.

[platypus]

Ultra-thin bodies are not very sexy on males nor females. Beauty is not always sexy. A fit body is simply a much better tool for sex

[YOLF]

Trust me, every thin male in high school/college/real life is depressed.

Ok, that's trolling... Hollywood media is dominated by skinny guys in TV and movies. I never knew a skinny guy who couldn't get women. Short may be an actual factor for men, but not skinny. Look at all the guys that run track...

[YOLF]

http://www.medicalne...cles/271141.php

 

http://memo.cgu.edu....3406/340608.pdf

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22196065

 

no wonder some men do evil things.

In China, you don't have gym class unless they have reason to believe that you'll be an exceptional gymnist, then you mostly get gym class. 

 

Still the Chinese guys I know are all well defined despite being skinny. I'd rather be well defined than anything else personally. In any case, my experience was that the skinny kids always got more girlfriends. If skinny is causing people problems, we have a media problem considering skinny is best associated with health and longevity.

[Brafarality]

 

Trust me, every thin male in high school/college/real life is depressed.

Ok, that's trolling... Hollywood media is dominated by skinny guys in TV and movies. I never knew a skinny guy who couldn't get women. Short may be an actual factor for men, but not skinny. Look at all the guys that run track...

 

 

Agree. The more I browse for backing, the worse the picture gets for those men who are not the thin ideal.

[YOLF]

Anyway, just think of the ridiculous pressure that activist groups have put on the fashion industry to stop using ultra-thin models because of the eating disorders and self esteem issues it causes:

http://www.debate.or...-are-too-skinny

http://www.today.com...anorexia-320100

http://www.psycholog...01005/manorexia

 

Powerful stuff.

http://www.medicalne...cles/271141.php

 

http://memo.cgu.edu....3406/340608.pdf

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22196065

 

no wonder some men do evil things.

 

Quote from the article on Manorexia:

"According to the article, the “metrosexual” style is suggesting that men slim down their body for the "trendiest, string-beaniest clothing"

The eating disorders and all that seem like BS to me. I think it's more about making overweight people feel better... or keeping them fat.

[Florian Xavier]

I only trust evidences and it's clear that thin men have it pretty harsh.

 

Realy low strenght men have it better ? haha yeah sure.

Edited by Florian Xavier, 31 May 2014 - 04:37 PM.

[YOLF]

I only trust evidences and it's clear that thin men have it pretty harsh.

Maybe by thin you mean emaciated?

[Florian Xavier]

No i mean near underweight, particularly low grip strenght.

[Brafarality]

I only trust evidences and it's clear that thin men have it pretty harsh.

 

Realy low strenght men have it better ? haha yeah sure.

 

Trust me, these people do not have it rough:

 

 

Note how skinny their arms and legs are and how the padded shoulders are the only thing giving them a semblance of anything beyond ultra-thin.

Edited by Brafarality, 31 May 2014 - 05:45 PM.

[Florian Xavier]

Try to understand that i don't care about what you think or what some newspapers think but only proofs.

 

If these guys go in real life they must be tought as fuck to avoid bdd disorder and other things.

 

Statistics about thin men are deconcerting to say the least.

 

Every study about thin men are very, very pessimistic.

Edited by Florian Xavier, 31 May 2014 - 06:10 PM.

[TheFountain]

No i mean near underweight, particularly low grip strenght.

^^^ Obscurantism

[Florian Xavier]

lol i mean it's a gradient

[YOLF]

So how would you rate this figure? If the factors you're giving were pertinent, they might also predict penis size as strength, T, and size generally correlate. Perhaps women really are looking for big...

 

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[Florian Xavier]

breast cancer is dramatic, prostate cancer is funny.

[platypus]

 

 

 

 

Agree. The more I browse for backing, the worse the picture gets for those men who are not the thin ideal.

 

But the ideal is not "thin" any longer, even for women. Fit is the new sexy, and this implies doing weight-bearing exercises. Are there women who actually prefer thin hipster-legs on men instead of strong trained legs? 

Edited by platypus, 01 June 2014 - 11:06 AM.

[TheFountain]

 

 

Are there women who actually prefer thin hipster-legs on men instead of strong trained legs? 

Yes, visit any starbucks or other place that appeals to metrosexual males. A lot of women want men they can boss around. It is a new trend in America. 

[Brafarality]

 

 

 

 

 

Agree. The more I browse for backing, the worse the picture gets for those men who are not the thin ideal.

 

But the ideal is not "thin" any longer, even for women. Fit is the new sexy, and this implies doing weight-bearing exercises. Are there women who actually prefer thin hipster-legs on men instead of strong trained legs? 

 

 

You're probably right...Im yammering based on my perception, which probably has a clue as far as 1995-2005 is concerned, but not sure after that, so I think I am behind the latest trends and fads.
 

It would be a truly benevolent direction if fit was the new in for urban males.

[Florian Xavier]

in your imagination maybe thin is trend.

 

I think many think this because every one focus on women that's it.

[A941]

I dont know what women like/want in men, i think for men it is damn hard to know what women actually think, as it is the other way round.

And asking question like: What do you think!" isnt working for anyone, cause Iam not going to tell her that for the last 30 minutes I ran a simulation of furniture movement in 3 Dimensions, and I dont want to know what she did, it might freak me out.

[YOLF]

in your imagination maybe thin is trend.

 

I think many think this because every one focus on women that's it.

trend is a trend... the perceptions are driven by marketing. Low weight is the best way to stay young and healthy. Stop caring what the women think and stop caring that marketers are trying to change back and forth to sell more shirts and pants to make you change your wardrobe. This is like what the tobacco companies did when commissioning scientific studies... They'll commission the study they want among the the people they want, and create incentive to get the results that they want to push more product. There has been a cyclical trend created by marketer of skinny, built, skinny, built, etc etc etc... 

 

Part of it is promoting the physique of the newest celebrity, part of it is to ensure that veterans who bulked up are attractive to women when they come back during the second half of war time and after wartime. Be healthy. That's what drives physiological and chemical attraction. Everything else is an artificially imprinted facade. 

[Florian Xavier]

I actually care what other men think of low strenght men

[YOLF]

I actually care what other men think of low strenght men

Men shouldn't judge other men by their strength. This isn't necessary unless you want to know who you can put down or intimidate.

 

The exception might be in martial arts prize fighting.

[Florian Xavier]

or in every day school and irl

 

It's not like males are very sensitives to dominance hierarchies huhu

Edited by Florian Xavier, 01 June 2014 - 06:03 PM.

[YOLF]

 

or in every day school and irl

 

It's not like males are very sensitives to dominance hierarchies huhu

 

Humans are copy apes. They have to bully you so you won't copy their ways successfully without knowing how they got them. If you did that, you might hurt someone...

 

That's the way they believe it has to be for their safety... That's why bullying and intimidation never ends... The good news is that the future will eventually shed light on the existential harm that's being done and that people's lives become devalued to the level of slaves because of their need for safety.

Edited by cryonicsculture, 01 June 2014 - 08:00 PM.

[serp777]

Yes because only perfect men on that equilibrium line get women.

 

/jokes

 

Women settle for less than perfect all the time, which is why we have non perfect humans in the first place. 

Edited by serp777, 17 June 2014 - 05:06 AM.

[TheFountain]

Yes because only perfect men on that equilibrium line get women.

 

/jokes

 

Women settle for less than perfect all the time, which is why we have non perfect humans in the first place. 

 

Please excuse them. They live in a fantasy world where only the 'elite' survive. Furthering that fantasy with considering themselves part of said elite, unknowingly torturing themselves in the process. 

[Seganfredo]

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