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#91 AlmostEasy

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Posted 17 April 2015 - 03:59 AM

Alright, lots of new information to throw out.  2 months worth of more experimenting and discovery!  yay

 

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Firstly, I was able to get an MRI and everything came back normal, minus they found cysts in my maxillary sinuses oddly enough, fairly large ones.  They said it's a non issue but I'll ask my neuro about it when I see him soon (idk if he'll have knowledge about it but w/e).  So that is awesome, that tells me it's something just out of whack with my neurotransmitters (I'm inferring).  I don't have a freaking brain tumor or some degenerative disease, and I think it's GABA, or more specifically (if I can infer this with the loose oversimplified information I/we have) my GABA receptors.

 

A while ago I purchased Phenibut just for the hell of it, it sounded like a great tool if used responsibly, and wow is it ever, but for me it's been more than that.  After my first time taking it it was more insightful than even Adderall/Ritalin has been.  I felt about 90% back to normal for a period of about ~4 hours.  It's like I'm blasted into another universe, it's very bizzare.  I'm aware again, my mind actually fucking works, the world feels real again.  It feels like my brain went from the power of a Gameboy Classic to a cutting edge smart phone.  The universe opened up again, and I felt normal, almost.  Still a bit disorganized and confused but infinitely more functional than I am at baseline.  And just to nip it in the bud, I realize this substance creates a beyond normal functioning state, and I tend not to dose that high as it honestly frightens me a bit, my inhibitions go away too much and I'm way too comfortable with the idea of saying some ridiculously offensive things to some people I don't quite like lol, so I keep it at a happy medium.  My cognition comes back, that's the takeaway, my feelings come back, my ease of sociability comes back to previous baseline (yes it exceeds my old normal if I take a lot).

 

So this new insight sent me into a frenzy of research and made me consider that my alcohol consumption (8+ years of getting very hammered at LEAST 3 times a month) perhaps caused something called PAWS (Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome).  Typically this is seen in benzo abuse and with alcoholics, but perhaps I'm more sensitive to it.  Basically destroyed my GABA a/b receptors.  Again, hypotheses, but without anything else showing a stronger possibility at the moment I see no other one to pursue.

 

I then looked at everything under the sun for GABA repair, and there's not a whole lot.  Everything about GABA is basically a no-no in the realistic use world.  Anything that acts on the GABA system, rapidly down-regulates it and invariably exacerbates the issue.  But I had to try something, so i kept digging.  What I've come up with is a lot of speculation ( and assuredly oversimplified), but at the moment, it is seemingly helpful.  I've stopped looking at substances for chronic use and started looking at ones that repair and are then discontinued, at least that's the idea.

 

Here's what I've come up with and have been using:

  • Kava kava (1/2 dose / day) - POTENTIALLY (controversial) upregulation of GABA (a) receptors.  Lots of anecdotal reports of reverse tolerance.  Some studies suggest this as well, some suggest otherwise.  Might as well try.  Feels helpful, not substantial, but enough to warrant continuation with how inexpensive it is.
  • Fasoracetam  (~15 mg sublingual) - POTENTIALLY upregulate GABA (b) receptors (the ones Phenibut acts on, what I feel I'm really lacking).  Honestly the acute effects are quite enjoyable as well.  Definitely my favorite racetam and actually the only one I think is even worth bothering with (according to my personal chemistry ofc).  Makes the world feel a bit more real again.  I very much enjoy it.
  • Ketogenic Diet - shown to upregulate GABA (a) in SOME individuals, others did not.  Has also significantly helped with my physical fatigue.  It's still there, but being tired doesn't wreck like 5-6 hours of my day.  I don't go into a food coma after eating now, I actually feel energized after eating.  Not fun to implement, requires a lot of diligence.
  • N-Acetyl Semax - (.2 mL in the morning, .1mL p.r.n.) - Thank you Ceretropic for doses small enough to afford sampling.  This has probably been my most well responded to supplement aside from Ritalin (and ofc Phenibut).  Brings me out of my head and gives me mental bracing to actually push my thoughts/words/feelings out into the world.

Will this simplistic idea work?  "Brain repair" and GABA receptor upregulation?  I don't know if it works like that, but it's all I've got at the moment, and I feel better.

 

I've been doing my best to avoid any drinking and so far I'm doing good, actually I'm doing perfect.  What I'm playing with though is the idea, and I've done previously before discovering the idea of PAWS, was taking Phenibut as an alcohol substitute, then just sipping on 2 drinks max all night to keep the buzz up.  It worked very well, but if this is hindering my progress in any significant way I'm going to stop immediately.  It's just strange to think it could, not because all signs don't point to this being a terrible idea, but because of how fine I feel in the morning.  What are you guys' thoughts on this?  I don't have enough information to come to a conclusion so I'm kind of hanging in limbo with it.  I know for sure I'm not getting drunk anymore though (unless I somehow prove that it isn't the issue).

 

So with all this + Ritalin I'm doing alright.  It comes/goes in waves.  Sometimes I think "man this just isn't enough" and times like right now I'm feeling very satisfied with how much I've accomplished with myself having this condition, I feel I've done a very powerful thing, basically on my own.

 

The research and reports indicate that PAWS can take 18+ months to fully recover from something like PAWS so at the moment I'm just trying to juggle keto, school, and finding new ways in which to enjoy sociability without getting smashed.  If I find that Phenibut does not in fact hinder my recovery, I'll be fairly content with the situation I find myself in.  Ofc I'm always looking to exceed and not just survive, but it feelsgoodman.  Again, this feeling will fade but even fleeting semi-normalcy is incredible.

 

The Future:

Next I have NSI-189 on the way (looking for the repair potential; some anecdotes are very powerful) and once Ceretropic has P21 in stock with the nasal sprays I'm going to be all over that.  It appears as though a P21 cycle is significantly more inexpensive than a Cerebrolysin cycle.  I wish I had just tried these peptides to begin with but it took what I did previously to get where I am, so that wasn't really possible.  Process of elimination.  Cognitive issues overlap in an incredibly overwhelming way.

 

So I'm doing better than I was.  So grateful for Ritalin and Semax.  I still have a ways to go but I feel like I'm narrowing in on something, I've eliminated so many potentials that I can't be too far off.

 

And as always I'm on Skype @ Almost.Easy2.  Another member and I are discussing his issues ( similar to mine ) and that's been very therapeutic.  It's nice to not feel alone in situations so grim.

 

TL;DR - Peptides are awesome.  I might have P.A.W.S.. NSI-189 on the way.  P21 might help a lot.  Doing better.

 

Cheers



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Posted 25 May 2015 - 12:11 AM

Well I'm not quite sure if I'm ready to fully discuss the implications of what has happened to me as I haven't completely accepted the reality of it myself but I've well.. found a cure, or at least a treatment, and it's leaving me with more questions than answers.  I'll be starting a new thread to generate discussion but I'll lay it out here as well.

 

So in the end, guess which one was the answer?  After all the nootropic roulette and the confusion and randomness and grasping at straws and desperation and anxiety and suffering, the doubt and the hope and the disappointment, the waiting and the judgment and confusion.

 

Memantine.  Fucking memantine from Ceretropic.  MEMANTINE.  NMDA receptor antagonist.

 

Yup.

 

I feel like I'm living in another world, the one I used to live in about 8 years ago.  I'm not used to it and it's foreign, yet familiar.  Anyways I'll remain technical as that's the purpose here but literally almost overnight I've been thrown magically into almost complete normalcy.

 

I'm probably operating at about 80% and I'm going to do all I can to improve that in time but for now just feeling the overwhelming emotion of returning to sanity and thinking about all the years that have passed in my dream state is enough to deal with.  If I ever could attribute an experience to something being miraculous, this would be it, though all credit goes to science.  God bless science (pun intended).

 

So now that I can actually feel and understand the seriousness of my situation I need to plow forward into getting a diagnosis down.  Huntington's Disease strikes a chord, but I suppose PAWS is still a possibility as excitotoxicity is associated with it and that's basically what memantine's main function is, is to reduce the effects of glutamatergic overactivity.

 

I don't know if this will last forever but this is finally without a doubt "the one".  I don't feel like this is something that can wear off, I know some people get the euphoria from memantine and that diminishes (possibly from D2 agonism) but this is far from being something like that.  I don't feel like I'm on anything at all, which is truly the beauty of it.  I just feel normal, and real.  I'm feeling a bit emotionally unstable as one can probably sympathize with and it's probably bleeding through this post but there's not much I can do about that at the moment, I've lived in a mental hell for 8 years straight, a bit of PTSD is probably warranted.

 

So, I suppose that is that.  I'm going to make a new thread and I'll link it in here once I'm done but I wanted to put an end cap on this thread in case anyone else in a similar situation came across it and wondered what happened in the end.  

 

Cheers guys, thank you to all that helped me and offered advice through this ordeal and humored my obsession.  I'm still not completely back to myself emotionally but at least I am substantially closer than I've been in years physically.

 

New Thread - Here

 


Edited by AlmostEasy, 25 May 2015 - 12:35 AM.

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Posted 13 August 2020 - 05:51 AM

I hate how its hard to make friends without alchohol, its such a poisonous drug but its also such a social necessity, not for the effects but just down to peer pressure and feeling weird if you are the only one not drunk, and the people who don't drink are usually very weird to begin with lol. To be honest I see it more and more as poisonous substance, its really the way it messes with your circadian rhythms. Dihydrocodeine makes me very socially gregarious (like those pick up guys), but then again the histamine releases gives me lots of rashes the day after, so I had to quit that. (not that it was something I was using regularly apart from really big social nights - it mainly removed my excessive autism thoughts completely and allowed me to just be one of the normals, the dosage for this was only 2 tablets which - I doubt it would give anyone else a effect)

2 tablets at what strength?







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