Well, whether or not you wish to review it with mindfulness and realize as a lot has been said a lot needs to be addressed, herein is another 'wall of text'. 
To be pointed to the question asked right off, as we do respond to any proper question of reason and that is respectful; yes, chemicalambrosia, taurine has been used as a filler, to answer that; which I thought as alluded to was rather more than obvious within repeatedly noting it is not 'just taurine' and that within this it is simply preposterous.
I agree as we well, all this is insulting, as alluded to above, and we have no part in the negative behavior herein at all. While I may use a lot of words or seem to speak in some manner that seems 'flowery', TeamTLR is not about stooping to such a level as we are steadfast to maintain a demeanor that is dignified.
This all started 'again' as I did answer the initial question raised, one raised in a manner before and I do feel explained prior, but one we were willing to give a final response to within that of providing clarity as to the reasoning and our position.
Then the trolls came out 'en force', with their typical negativity, hateful tone, derogatory nature, and there more than apparent overt agenda.
I made I believe one or two very quick responses, that I believe were dignified and true, and I would have rather seen it left at that and all to cease. The trolling, again of such an apparent agenda, is what proliferates the insulting mess that became of this thread. I have always responded on the Team's behalf, sometimes within consulting with the Team where important, as to any respectfully addressed question and have answered within a respectful manner. Whether the answer fully satisfies everyone may not be the case, but it is I believe clear and respectful within all of it. Maybe I have added a few flowers here and there, but I guess I just find flowers pretty and like to share.
To a point I do want to be emphatic about, this Project is wholly sincere. Sincere within a primary goal to foster betterment. Sincere within the core within that objective is to realize greater means toward betterment for alleviation of suffering, as they are those who need betterment most of all. Regrettably this may have not much appeal to others, or most are too jaded to accept such is so. I knew some opposition would occur, but the state of affairs is not only saddening by this point, it is sickening.
In that, there indeed is a 'spiritual undercurrent' to the Project. Some may find it appealing, some may find it otherwise, but it is so. I ask is it a bad thing to want to be of good nature, to try to create movements for good purposes, and to hold those ideals as a primary core foundation of what underlies what one does within all in their life?
Niner, I respect you as a man of sound reason, strong intellect, and generous and highly valuable dedication to this forum. If you have any questions as to the integrity of this Project or myself I will happily speak with you by phone, which is something I generally would care not to do, but if you wish to take any impression from a real conversation of real discourse I am more than readily confident you will have mind to see that I am genuine, sincere, knowledgeable, and all that is being done is for good reason and rationale.
A competitor with a clear conflict of interest should never be the one involved in coordinating testing and remittance of another businesses products at all, yet of course indeed without an absolute tighter than tight chain of custody and within use of a highly reputable, accredited lab . As well, this is NOT a scientific journal, this is all of a very different platform. Dissemination of results via what has transpired in this manner is extremely serious grounds for legal action; further still, just to point such out, such would even be the case regardless whether they are accurate or not. Further even still, a clear and transparent agenda has been more than obvious literally from Day One. Moreover, not just that of a competitor, but someone who distinctly has massive power and control of a whole forum format (Reddit/nootropics, for those who by some chance may be unaware). Think on the responsibilities, as well as the liabilities, that lie within that. And trust I assure you the impetus to do so was not 'for the betterment of the community', that is more than apparent to any with any insight at all.
Within another matter at hand, indeed we had some recent difficulties with a very important shipment, and therein some challenging issues. It happens, it is unfortunate, and we have all want to give explanation and to remit status. As well, the delay to do so was to ascertain best as to the time-frames now involved, and as to what we want to offer within a compensatory manner, to show respect to the situation and inconvenience therein. Though this was of issues no fault directly of our own and such things can occur given the variables, indeed we bear the onus and certainly want to do 'all that is right' within this.
We are hoping to have the GHK arrive within about a week as there was a customs situation that impeded and such things happen as they basically do as they please at times. Most unfortunately at just possibly the worst times it appears. I will elaborate further shortly on this within the GHK thread; I was just awaiting a word back from Logic as he has something of an intermediary role herein within this and I greatly respect him and his valuable opinion as to what may be best within this. We are only looking to do the right thing, always; very much so. In that he seems one of true "Logic" and rationale his input is something we very much appreciate and value.
Again, Niner, I would like to address you herein. I hope within my flowery words and my use of unconventional writing and 'graphical' centering you can perceive I am someone of a true nature to wish to foster 'good' and always look to adhere with dedication to all principles that are within that. I welcome you to a discourse. Again, the intent of the Project is only to sincerely do that which is for the good of all. Sorry if my 'nature' is unappealing or foreign to some, but this is who I am and what the Project is founded upon. I hesitate to say it is a reflection of the state of mind and nature of society today that such always has to be looked upon in a jaded or confounding manner; or worse yet to be met by obvious jealousy, small-mindedness, blatant unseemly ulterior motives, and even such outright hate and venom. However, those looking to do the 'right thing' I have seen very much seem to be 'an attractor' for those looking to do the 'wrong thing'.
Never once from Day One did Ceretropic/Paul/MYASD, an individual with what appears to be near complete and total control of Reddit/nootropics, as well as a competitor, try to ever make any contact whatsoever either via forum or even what would seem better a personal dialogue. As I stated prior and will re-state herein, within all this more than apparent disgraceful and hate-filled trolling and agenda-laden tactics:
"TLR was lambasted every which way within R/Nootropics, though we tried diligently to make sincere and respectful communications with moderators and such. However, we were not afforded even the courtesy of replies to our communications. Hence that which followed were several attacks, overtly slanderous and libelous comments, a mostly baseless comparison made to "Shilajit", and worse. The referenced comparison was based on 'the riduculous' use of its appearance and not at all remotely in line with this unbiased and elegant reporting by the individual who posted such. Subsequent censorship and worse again ensued, which happened to quite a few other attempted posts reporting favorably upon research with TLR SEP-OX and TLR-OA items as we were informed, and within all seemingly very much within the control of "MYASD" the OWNER of Ceretropics. We took the high road and decided to wage our battle to Create a Change for True Betterment within not wishing to be distracted by such overtly vehement censorship, hypocrisy, and 'hate'. Many have seen this.
As I understand it MYASD/Ceretropic is presently the sole owner, as his partner passed away last year or so of a drug related overdose. He himself has openly posted about drug use that could be considered to be irresponsible and not of a mindset or full commitment to fostering harm reduction and safety. I hesitate to say such, but perhaps herein he is living up to his own chosen moniker, MisterYouAreSoDumb. Read into all that what you will."
That we have had to take so much of our time and energies away from movements to foster our objectives we feel is a travesty. It has had a great impact, especially coinciding with some other unfortunate happenstance as regards a pack that by all accounts we did everything right to have been received well over a month ago, but such happens. Much of what we are trying to do is difficult enough, I assure you, quite the understatement. Indeed furthermore these individuals of rank agenda have succeeded in negatively affecting our sales as well, which greatly inhibits what we can provide as that is the sole objective. I am not ashamed to state this -- Kudos to all of them! :-/
Flowery or otherwise I will re-state herein again what I said prior, that I know to be true and that I know to be of what is "Right" or "True":
Note, TLR is all about safety and harm reduction, affording means to superior movements within all that relates. We have been exceedingly thorough within our research and testing of all SEP-OX. This is emphatically stated on the site, as to the long history of this engagement, as well as the intrinsic goal objective with all SEP-OX agents of being first and foremost the paramount requirement that they are of the very highest therapeutic index; the highest safety, with exceptionally minimized adverse effect potential. Let he who cast stones...well, we would rather not and to date have looked to not be of nature to make any such negative comments, but do feel need to be explicit within all this.
If there is any negativity henceforth in this thread, or otherwise, let it be known it is that of haters and destroyers; TLR is all about being True, about being Creators, fostering Betterment & Positivity, for Humanity, about Love & Compassion, of that which is of "Enlightenment".
Let me thank those who are willing to use their minds rationally and openly, and be perhaps mindful to 'remove' some jadedness as well, to be able to See what I would think is more than obvious within it all. Yes, much of this and what TLR is about is highly atypical, much of it indeed; however, is that a 'bad thing'? If you invest within looking at the whole of it I do believe it rings of that which is sincere and genuine, of integrity, of a true want to foster 'good'; Of That Which Is "True".
Flowery Forty Six & 2 ...OUT
--Hey, I do have a sense of humor, too...
P.S. I implore the administrators/moderators to take a firm stance here within no more posting within this nonsense; especially anything at all along the lines within anything notably repetitive at all as it is so tiresome, negative, and of agenda transparent; and of course more so as to that which derogatory, and just simply toxic. I call herein for a 3-12 month suspension, or even if called for a ban, for anyone doing such at all, within metered as to the severity of 'the violation', and within indeed sometimes children apparently require a time out to actually behave in a manner that is civil and correct - and some just are best entirely removed from civil settings.
Without correction, which I have requested prior via messages, there will be simply a continuance of what is overall deplorable and insulting behavior transpiring here. It is insulting to the forum, Longecity itself, and to not be addressed. As such, it very much should be 'handled' accordingly.
Regrettably, we hoped this thread would all, or most all, be to the positive, of positivity, as is our ethos; but such is sadly become within much of it the antithesis. This Thread has been maintained by TLR simply because we feel it is of integrity to keep such up, not that it serves any purpose for the betterment of the Project directly, but within that it serves perhaps the higher purpose of integrity to maintain it. Within even far earlier 'ugly' behavior that transpired there was want to remove it, to remove such infestation of negativity and ugliness, and to not allow for means for such to transpire yet again. Well, such has in fashion of the most foul nature. This cannot be allowed to persist.
Thank you in advance to all at Longecity so responsible for being responsible to move accordingly within this.
Edited by Forty Six & 2, 21 March 2015 - 04:34 PM.
. Please film the experience so we can all see how it doesn't work
