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[KieranA001]

Here is my report on a combination of SEP-OX extracts bought from TeamTLR. I bought these extracts to see the effects that they have on my anxiety and depressive states.

 

I mixed 2 grams of each to 20ml of H20 and 20ml of 40% vodka (40ml total for 50mg/ml each). I will being dosing at 1ml (50mg) to see effect outcome.

T+0:00; 6:30 P.M.

I administered 2.0ml total solution which includes a mixture of SGAN-OX and ORPA-OX (0.5ml each of a 50mg/ml solution @ total 1.0ml) with an additional 1.0ml of CBRM-OX (50mg/ml). I have just dosed with an insulin syringe (2.0ml Total solution). The dosages to be clear were 50mg CBRM-OX, 25mg SGAN-OX, and 25mg ORPA-OX.

 

I begin to feel the alcohol-based liquid under my tongue absorb where I held it there for 5 minutes to make sure it’s well absorbed into my blood stream before I swallow it.

T+0:03

I start to feel slightly inebriated after the first three minutes of the solution being under my tongue followed by a slight mood increase which felt very calm and clean. Just like any anti-anxiety / depression drug should be.

T+0:05

I feel slightly alarmed by the rapidity of the onset, but my facial muscles are slowly overtaken by an irresistible grin.

The thought occurs to me that these compounds could somehow be of immense value to those like me who suffer from anxiety and Major Depressive Disorder (MDD).

T+0:30

 

I begin to feel a sense of prosperity and more of a meaning in life and the things around me.  I tend to think a lot more about my emotions than I used to on this combination and find life somehow funnier. My anxiety levels have pretty much vanished at this point and my depression is gone.

T+2:00

it’s two hours since post-dose and I’m still feeling the effects just as much. They haven’t appeared to have diminished at all and are still at the effective level when first administered.

 

I have noticed that my thought process has changed. In general, I have a pretty pessimistic overview on everything. Although, while on this trio blend of compounds by Team TLR my thinking style is very positive which overall yields a very optimistic and rewarding emotional state of being and makes me feel like undergoing or performing in more social activities / activities in general.

 

T+3:30

 

My agitation has decreased and my calmness seems to have increased a lot. I seem to be able to spend longer on a single activity without getting bored of it or losing my patience with it.

 

Activities which I normally enjoy are even more rewarding. This includes social interaction as I feel more engaged into talking to other people, possibly due to the ORPA-OX added with the SGAN-OX and CBRM-OX.

 

T+6:30

In summary, I believe that this is a great combination of drugs to take to ward off or eliminate your anxiety and depression. This combination has been most effective to me than any other form of anxiety medication.

 

I feel that this combination is also a lot better to your overall health and well-being in comparison to a SSRI or benzodiazepines. This blend also aids in social interaction and makes talking to people a lot easier if you suffer from Social Anxiety Disorder (SAD).

Edited by KieranA001, 13 August 2014 - 09:22 PM.

[Sciencyst]

I'm glad you had such a positive experience. All of these so called extracts sound nice, and I have no doubt that they are effective but it really bothers me that the ingredients are "proprietary".. And hints at the possibility that this line of products are nothing more than research chemicals. This would make a lot of sense looking at the rest of the site and what is sold. Also, it makes little sense that a plant extract from something other than cannabis will bind 72% as strongly to CB1 as D9THC (from their product page) and has such a high potency. Might as well sell it as potpourri, lol. The cannabinoid extract is probably simply AB-PINACA or a related compound, and perhaps the analgesics are just rc opioids.I certainly hope TeamLTR wouldn't stoop this low, and I'll give them the benefit of a doubt, but it really is not wise to sell sketchy mystery extracts with such purported activity. Otherwise TeamLTR has some really awesome products and I'm definitely going to try some out. If anybody has small amounts of the -OX products, I could assist in reagent testing them and comparing results against known RCs. Again this is hasty speculation and should not dissuade one from doing business with them, just exercise caution as always.

Edit: Browsing through the rest of their products, it seems that several of the "extracts" do not list ingredients because they are probably patented pharmaceutical substances which are still being developed. For example, their NR2B antagonist could actually be CERC-301/MK-0657, which is undergoing clinical trials. So maybe the other optimised extracts are legitimate pharmaceutical research chemicals. This would fall more in line with their other products and make more sense..but it is still scary not even knowing the ingredients.

Edited by katuskoti, 27 August 2014 - 06:56 PM.

[KieranA001]

I'm glad you had such a positive experience. All of these so called extracts sound nice, and I have no doubt that they are effective but it really bothers me that the ingredients are "proprietary".. And hints at the possibility that this line of products are nothing more than research chemicals. This would make a lot of sense looking at the rest of the site and what is sold. Also, it makes little sense that a plant extract from something other than cannabis will bind 72% as strongly to CB1 as D9THC (from their product page) and has such a high potency. Might as well sell it as potpourri, lol. The cannabinoid extract is probably simply AB-PINACA or a related compound, and perhaps the analgesics are just rc opioids.I certainly hope TeamLTR wouldn't stoop this low, and I'll give them the benefit of a doubt, but it really is not wise to sell sketchy mystery extracts with such purported activity. Otherwise TeamLTR has some really awesome products and I'm definitely going to try some out. If anybody has small amounts of the -OX products, I could assist in reagent testing them and comparing results against known RCs. Again this is hasty speculation and should not dissuade one from doing business with them, just exercise caution as always.

Edit: Browsing through the rest of their products, it seems that several of the "extracts" do not list ingredients because they are probably patented pharmaceutical substances which are still being developed. For example, their NR2B antagonist could actually be CERC-301/MK-0657, which is undergoing clinical trials. So maybe the other optimised extracts are legitimate pharmaceutical research chemicals. This would fall more in line with their other products and make more sense..but it is still scary not even knowing the ingredients.

 

In addition to the ingredients in their products, I believe that they just don't want other compainies stealing their research and selling it as their own. They told me that they aren't well know yet and don't want anyone finding out the ingrediants in case some other "more well known" company says it's their product instead.

 

I do believe that we should be entitled to know what's in them. But, I took the leap of faith and just went with it as he sounds very trust worthy.. The products seem to be working good so either way. I believe the only way to test to see if they are leget is to match the effects with the compound from another source.. Well, the JDTic and the Piracetam feels pretty leget in comparison to when I have brought them in the past from another source.

 

Not sure on the -OX products though.. Some stuff is still worth the investment though even if you aren't sure on the -OX extracts. :-)
 

[Nattzor]

 

 

 

In addition to the ingredients in their products, I believe that they just don't want other compainies stealing their research and selling it as their own. They told me that they aren't well know yet and don't want anyone finding out the ingrediants in case some other "more well known" company says it's their product instead.

 

I do believe that we should be entitled to know what's in them. But, I took the leap of faith and just went with it as he sounds very trust worthy.. The products seem to be working good so either way. I believe the only way to test to see if they are leget is to match the effects with the compound from another source.. Well, the JDTic and the Piracetam feels pretty leget in comparison to when I have brought them in the past from another source.

 

Not sure on the -OX products though.. Some stuff is still worth the investment though even if you aren't sure on the -OX extracts. :-)
 

 

 

It's not worth risking the life of customers just to not let other companies "steal" their research. The companies wont be able to claim it's their own if they publish it first, not harder than that.

 

They just showed that Eugerafinil-OA was 9-Fluorenone because ceretropic released something like it. I'm guessing all their (or atleast the majority) -OA are already on the market or have been studied and published by others. They also claim to have found a new species of a plant (or they worded it REALLY poorly and meant that they wouldn't tell us which it was), which is highly unlikely.

[Max Headroom Incident]

Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just discovered this company and am perplexed.  Knowing what substance you're taking is the main tenet of safe substance use.  Maybe I'm missing something, but these sound like catchy-named compounds and mixtures that contain unknown ingredients and amounts.  Is this correct?  How does one determine the safe dose of an "opioidergic" if they have no tolerance and don't know what it is?  Sounds dangerous. Could be a fentanyl analogue for all we know. 

 

Still, I'm intrigued.  Not enough to actually risk my life though. 

Edited by Max Headroom Incident, 31 May 2015 - 10:26 PM.