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[Reformed-Redan]

"The effects were similar."

Like cravings? Like increased addiction potential? That's how its effects me anyway.

I think I process dopamine differently than you. I don't have a COMT inhibitor, so that may be why. Anyway, when I take too much dopamine precursers, like hot chocolate I feel over-doped Don't know if that makes sense. But, taking deprenyl alone is addictive for me. First thing I like to do when I get up is take some deprenyl sublingually. Puts me in a good mood right away. I already read somewhere that one of the most "rewarding" activities are physiological functions if you know what I mean. If I take some deprenyl and then get #1 done I feel like a champ. LOL.

[meatsauce]

I have been using deprelyn the past few days with the uridine stack and the change in me is remarkable. I am finally feeling motivated again with the energy to accomplish after a long period of depression and apathy.

I am trying to get the dose right. I have been using a small portion of a 5 mg pill sublingually because I remember reading that sublingual absorption is about ten times that of oral. If 1 mg is a good oral dose for daily use I was trying to take about 1/50th of the pill but in reality I think I am taking a few times that amount. Yadayada how much are you taking sublingually?

I think we can take the deprenyl pills and dissolve them in a 20% DMSO solution and apply it more precisely tropically.

I am really excited about BPAP and its potentiating properties, but I wonder if tolerance would develope eventually?

[Reformed-Redan]

I have been using deprelyn the past few days with the uridine stack and the change in me is remarkable. I am finally feeling motivated again with the energy to accomplish after a long period of depression and apathy.

I am trying to get the dose right. I have been using a small portion of a 5 mg pill sublingually because I remember reading that sublingual absorption is about ten times that of oral. If 1 mg is a good oral dose for daily use I was trying to take about 1/50th of the pill but in reality I think I am taking a few times that amount. Yadayada how much are you taking sublingually?

I think we can take the deprenyl pills and dissolve them in a 20% DMSO solution and apply it more precisely tropically.

I am really excited about BPAP and its potentiating properties, but I wonder if tolerance would develope eventually?

I take 1.25 mg. I break a 5mg tablet into 4 parts. I haven't heard of any tolerance to Deprenyl, so BPAP should not have it too.

[Googoltarian]

However, he will be doing a larger synthesis if I understood him correctly at 500-1kg, which will give us a massive discount.

That is quite big investment on his side! If you can, please ask him which synthetic route he will be using.

Depending on what "massive discount" means, I might be interested in obtaining a sample, and I will do HPLC on chiral column plus 1H NMR.

[Reformed-Redan]

However, he will be doing a larger synthesis if I understood him correctly at 500-1kg, which will give us a massive discount.

That is quite big investment on his side! If you can, please ask him which synthetic route he will be using.

Depending on what "massive discount" means, I might be interested in obtaining a sample, and I will do HPLC on chiral column plus 1H NMR.

I will send you a sample. (100mg?) When I receive the compound. Please refrain from mentioning the supplier. I put in a request to delete my previous post.

[daouda]

If the price gets that affordable and the things proves to be pure and legit, I will definitely be in for a group buy in bout 2 months

[Reformed-Redan]

lol, more predatory post downrating. Go shout at a wall.

[peakplasma]

lol, more predatory post downrating. Go shout at a wall.

What's going on? Why are you getting negatives?

[Reformed-Redan]

lol, more predatory post downrating. Go shout at a wall.

What's going on? Why are you getting negatives?

I don't care. So, everyone who has shown interest is still interested in this? It will take some time for the supplier to make the compound so a little patience would help.

[meatsauce]

Stil interested. Do you plan on organizing a group buy or will you be distributing the BPAP out to those interested via direct payment?

[Reformed-Redan]

Stil interested. Do you plan on organizing a group buy or will you be distributing the BPAP out to those interested via direct payment?

Still thinking about that. I might have the distributor have 10 vials with the compound and preservative sent to me and I can deal with the logistics for people in the US. As I understand it we have most of the people interested in the compound from the US and this is only a 10 person group buy.

Based on the amount of people, I think this will be best as a 10 person group buy even though the supplier can make/sell more than 10g.

I'll collect funds in the same way they were collected for the NSI-189 group buy. But, I'm not collecting anything at the moment.

[autopilot]

Stil interested. Do you plan on organizing a group buy or will you be distributing the BPAP out to those interested via direct payment?

Still thinking about that. I might have the distributor have 10 vials with the compound and preservative sent to me and I can deal with the logistics for people in the US. As I understand it we have most of the people interested in the compound from the US and this is only a 10 person group buy.

Based on the amount of people, I think this will be best as a 10 person group buy even though the supplier can make/sell more than 10g.

I'll collect funds in the same way they were collected for the NSI-189 group buy. But, I'm not collecting anything at the moment.

i have always been interested and would appreciate if you could arrange to send one of those vials to me. If anybody else from UK/EU interested I am willing to post to them as well. Not sure how these group buys work.

[OpaqueMind]

I'm definitely interested too...

Novel catecholamine/serotonin activity enhancer? Hellz yeah. The papers look very promising. One small concern, how the fuck do you accurately measure nanograms?!

[boff]

@yadayada - did you get my PM r.e. the group buy? I'm still very much in and very keen to try this out.

[meatsauce]

I'm definitely interested too...

Novel catecholamine/serotonin activity enhancer? Hellz yeah. The papers look very promising. One small concern, how the fuck do you accurately measure nanograms?!

Dilute it in in a given amount of liquid.measure out 100 mg which is doable with a milligram scale and dissolve it in 50 or 100 ml of water with a preservative like alcohol. I am assuming this is water soluble but It could be fat soluble. Is bpap water or fat soluble?

[Googoltarian]

Is bpap water or fat soluble?

Both. As hydrochloride it will be water and alcohol soluble, and as free base it will be alcohol and fat soluble.

[lostfalco]

Just wanna give a huge thanks to Yada for all your work on this! I've been clicking around on the links you provided and reading your various posts on Deprenyl/Selegiline/BPAP. Thanks man, cool stuff.

[Reformed-Redan]

Just wanna give a huge thanks to Yada for all your work on this! I've been clicking around on the links you provided and reading your various posts on Deprenyl/Selegiline/BPAP. Thanks man, cool stuff.

Sure thing. It's nice to see other people who can benefit from this. Without you guys this would not be possible. I'm a little wary of selgiline even though it provides the "best bang for the buck" in terms of cognitive enhancers and anti aging supplements. I'd hate to go to jail for getting pulled over and have amp metabolites in my bloodstream, (maybe the reason M.D Joseph Knoll wanted to develop a better compound, haha.)

[Reformed-Redan]

Aas usual, I'll be giving first priority of the group buy who have and still do show interest in the group buy which was;

Metagene
peakplasma
Hebbeh, can always count on you for a group buy. :D
lourdaud
lenses,
meatsauce
SUB-Rx
Passion, >?
daouda, pleasure to have you, :D
ricko321
indranghimiray
eddielang
datrat
Q did it! :D
and me

If 10 people on the above list PM me, then I will close this group buy and you guys are locked in.
I'm already sure five spots are filled. Q did it!, peakplasma, Hebbeh, meatsauce, and obviously me. You guys don't have to PM me. Whoever is on that list can PM me. It's a first come first serve basis group buy.
Five spots left.

Edited by yadayada, 05 May 2013 - 05:01 PM.

[OpaqueMind]

Why limit it to just 10 people? There's more than enough available dose-wise. I and the other UK guy could split a gram if you felt it necessary

[noot_in_the_sky]

@ 200 its too rich for me at the moment -unless someone likes to share a small amount.
I'll be diligently reading your experiences.

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[OpaqueMind]

If I can't get in on the buy I'd be willing to pay an inflated price for a fraction of someone's supply. 0.02mg per dose equals 50,000 doses per gram. Ain't nobody got time for dat!

[OpaqueMind]

Btw, thats a conservative estimate, considering the average Deprenyl dose is 1.5-2mg and BPAP is 100-130x stronger depending on which source you read. Unless you plan on living at least 150 years more, taking BPAP every day and somehow maintaining it's chemical integrity over that time, limiting the buy to such paltry numbers seems inopportune.

[Reformed-Redan]

I'm sorry; but, I'm taking this slow and steady. I might actually have to send out letters for signatures regarding a release of liability for any actions or intent of using this compound other than for research purposes.

[OpaqueMind]

Hey no worries dude, I appreciate that There's much time yet anyway. Do you know why it never made it to market?

[Karmakenic]

Hi, Will you post to Australia?

[Reformed-Redan]

I'm willing to open some more spots for participants.
@Karmakenic, I'm sorry; but, I'm afraid you will loose your money. Thankfully Australia has great customs; but, I really doubt they would let this compound in given it structure. You might have to ask someone more knowledgeable.

Anyone else interested in BPAP? Just PM me or say it here and I'll try and include you if I can.

[Reformed-Redan]

Just an update. I have received 3 payments and would need 10 payments to make the group buy happen. If possible I can go up to 20 or 15 people as the supplier indicated that scalability is not a big issue. I will also as the supplier to send the compound to another trusted supplier to have the compound soluted in a preservative and appropriate vials with accurate measurements of volume per cm^3. If that supplier cannot do it I will ask the original supplier to do it. I'm getting ahead of myself here. I'm still waiting for the payments to arrive for the group buy. Thank you for your patience.

[Reformed-Redan]

Aas usual, I'll be giving first priority of the group buy who have and still do show interest in the group buy which was;

Metagene
peakplasma
Hebbeh, can always count on you for a group buy. :D
lourdaud
lenses,
meatsauce
SUB-Rx
daouda, pleasure to have you, :D
ricko321
indranghimiray, now known as "autopilot"
eddielang
datrat
Q did it! :D
and me

Everyone on this list got the payment info. I missed 2 people out of negligence, sry. Thanks for being patient.

[Werper]

If it's still open I would like to join. Payment will not be a problem. Just let me know via PM.