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[stolpioni]

I've been wondering about this. Is it possible that either of these substances can cause growth of cancer cells?

 

Here's an article about another peptide called CJC-1295:

 

http://www.news.com....l-1226706888307

 

 

Earl is at rock bottom now, but perhaps he should be thankful he's not six feet under. The peptide he took and distributed, CJC-1295, is not only banned by ASADA but is incredibly dangerous to the human body. In fact, it's so bad, it can promote the growth of cells that cause cancer.

 

Leading Australian sports physician Doctor Peter Larkins tells news.com.au that peptides like CJC-1295 have the potential to cause high blood pressure, extreme stress on the liver and kidney, loss of fertility and yes, potentially even cancer.

"There are potential concerns with the long term use of any agent that promotes cell growth," he explains.

 

"CJC-1295 is used in the muscle and bodybuilding world where testing isn't that common. It's very popular as a muscle-building agent and is a banned substance because it's performance-enhancing."

The drug is not technically illegal, and can be bought easily on the internet at one of countless mysterious websites which never seem to have phone numbers. On the site pictured above, it's $36.

 

Aside from being banned in sport, the problem with drugs like CJC-1295, says Dr Larkins, is that they are not licensed by pharmaceutical companies or used by doctors because they haven't been adequately tested.

 

Would this be true for all peptides?

 

I've also heard something about stimulating NGF also stimulates growth of brain tumours.

 

I've been on SEMAX for about 5 days now and it's awesome. My gut feeling (and experience) tells me that if it's too good to be true, it probably is.

There has to be some side-effects from this?

[Gorthaur]

Peptides are an incredibly diverse class of molecules - about as diverse as you could get. The only thing they have in common is that they are made from amino acids, but you could have anywhere from 2 to a hundred amino acids in one peptide. For example, Semax has six amino acids, while CJC-1295 has 30 amino acids. They really have nothing in common structurally or functionally, as Semax mimics adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH) while CJC-1295 acts on growth hormone releasing hormone (GHRH). 

 

I'm not aware of any solid evidence that links CJC-1295 (or any similar peptides) to cancer, but I do think it's a realistic concern. Semax, though, has no mechanism by which it could cause cancer, and the same is true of Selank. With Semax, you might run into problems with burnout or adrenal insufficiency with long term use, but I don't think it'll be very serious. I always found that Semax made me feel really stressed out with higher dosages.

 

As for NGF stimulating brain tumors, the discoverer of NGF used it as a daily supplement for decades, and she recently died at the age of 103 in remarkable mental health. It's possible NGF could stimulate brain tumors in people already susceptible to them, but for most people, the benefits of increased NGF outweigh the risks.

[stolpioni]

Thank you so much Gorthaur for that explanation. I feel much better continuing taking Semax/Selank now.