The abstract is lacking details. I wonder what their definition of paleo is? It bothers me when people use the term like it tells you everything about the diet.
Nutr Res. 2015 May 14. pii: S0271-5317(15)00097-4.
Posted 25 May 2015 - 04:30 PM
The abstract is lacking details. I wonder what their definition of paleo is? It bothers me when people use the term like it tells you everything about the diet.
Nutr Res. 2015 May 14. pii: S0271-5317(15)00097-4.
Posted 25 May 2015 - 06:49 PM
The study participants all lost significant (as in 11%) weight in the Paleo phase, but not in the AHA phase (2%, duh, high protein suppresses appetite), so the results aren't terribly meaningful for maintenance diets.
We know what happens during longer term maintenance of high protein, low-carb diets (higher cardiovascular and cancer mortality), though to be fair there are no studies whatsoever on long term outcomes of specifically paleo type diets.
They told the paleo participants what not to eat, but just gave AHA guidelines which are practically meaningless for most, so I'd expect compliance was rather poor for the AHA phase. The authors state compliance was monitored from food journals, but don't report on it otherwise.
Phase One: American Heart Association
Phase Two: Paleolithic
I'm not suggesting paleo is bad - for most people consuming the standard American diet, the paleo prescription to avoid processed foods will offer marked improvements. I just don't think its optimal, compared to whole-plant based diets, focused on whole grains and legumes. Fiber is the healthiest appetite suppressant.
I think many looking for optimal diets will agree that the AHA guidelines leave much to be desired.
Edited by Darryl, 25 May 2015 - 07:17 PM.
Posted 25 May 2015 - 08:11 PM
Thanks Darryl. I was worried they were using Paleo to also imply high-protein. Which to me, it need not be high protein. It sounds like it probably wasn't if they only told them what not to eat.
Posted 04 June 2015 - 04:53 PM
We know what happens during longer term maintenance of high protein, low-carb diets (higher cardiovascular and cancer mortality), though to be fair there are no studies whatsoever on long term outcomes of specifically paleo type diets.
The very problem with most low carb diets is that they are also high protein. From my way of thinking, this is kind of defeating the purpose of going low carb to begin with due to what happens to the excess protein above and beyond what is needed for maintenance and repair. A paleo-keto diet mix seems extremely optimal to me, in such a way that you keep your carbs low AND protein low enough to stay in ketosis while generally eating paleo acceptable foods (with a few exceptions).
Here is a daily example for me straight out of my cron log:
Breakfast
Avocado
3 Eggs (cooked in OO)
tbsp wild blueberries
Lunch
Spinach/Collards salad w/cheese,cucumber, EVO, Alfalfa sprouts, Cherry tomato, celery, radish, flax seed
Small Chicken Breast (cooked in OO)
Raw Pecan halves
Dinner
Wild Caught Salmon (cooked in OO)
Spinach drizzled with EVO
Portabella Slices
2600 calories
19 grams net carbs
124 grams protein
221 grams fat
Only nutritional shortages (on cron)
Sodium (57%)
Potassium (92%)
To combat that (especially given my sweat factor from the gym+cardio), I add potassium and iodized salt to my green tea, as well as lightly sprinkling salt on my food.
So yeah not completely paleo .....but mostly, while keeping myself in Ketosis.
Posted 05 June 2015 - 03:02 AM
One word for you: Ornish.
Posted 05 June 2015 - 05:36 PM
Paleo diet can mean alot of things. I think the stereotypical low carb paleo can be rather hard to sustain long term as it lacks fiber and can have too much proteins. It still does wonder for the health coming from a standard diet.
I have been eating more or less paleo for 2 and half year now (I still eat rice, chocolate, yogurt and emmentaler cheese). It solved big digestion issues I had with Crohn's disease. At some point I had problem when I reduced carbs too much (losing weight, low energy and constipation). Ketosis feels good, but I'm skeptical about its long term effects. I think that's why it makes a good short term intervention, but long term, you have to concentrate on a good source of carbs like sweet potatoes, rice or quinoa if you want to have an optimal microbiome. Good intake of prebiotics fiber and resistant starch is very important. A paleo diet must be high in quality fiber and this is often neglected.
I'm guessing I'm in the 50-100g of fiber/day range nowaday (I'm adding inulin and potato starch). This is the opposite of what is recommended to me by medical professionnals, as they push for a low fiber diet which pretty much garanties chronic diarrhea and metabolic issues long term. My CRP is 0, blood sugar and tension as low as they can be.
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