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Permanent brain damage from cannabis ?

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#31 Cory

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 12:02 PM

Should the underlying cause be correlated to the downregulation of the Dopaminergic system, your lack of emotion indicates such because Serotonin is part of that system as well. The good news is that the chances of permanent damage is probably very low if you are still fairly young in age because of the brain's ability to repair itself. Tyrosine and 5-htp maybe good for you if used with caution (do your research on pairing the two). I would suggest supplementing with an  neural-antioxidant, Magnesium, and a carrier (B vitamins,)(MCT oil).  The Magnesium plays a vital role in reducing excitotoxicity-thus potentially reversing or slowing down neuronal cell death. Now if you had no issues in your emotional response system, then i would suggest start taking a choline source with Huperzine. In theory, THC can speed up the dopaminergic system, and over prolonged usage, the brain will notice this spike, and start downregulating Dopamine receptors to try to achieve a balance. This can be explained why many addicts of any kind need more to achieve the initial feeling. In use of THC, whilst speeding up your Dopamine receptors, it can also slow down Acetyl-choline drastically thus causing memory lapses. So, as you can see it is no easy answer since the brain is quite a unique organ. The best solution is do your research, and find what maybe best for you. Then, start off small and work your way up until you find the balance you were looking for. Best luck!


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Posted 05 June 2016 - 05:17 PM

Mg also inhibits NMDA and activates GABA. of the factors mentioned, serotonin, dopamine, glutamate, and norepinephrine are involved in cannabis side effects, anhedonia, amotivation, inattention, irritibility etc.

A positive correlation was found between platelet Mg and serotonin concentrations only in the healthy control group. In conclusion, differences were observed in serum and platelet Mg concentrations, which represent progress in the study of Mg status and its relation to serotonin.

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In addition, a direct enhancing effect of magnesium on the 5HT1A.

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Agonist and antagonist binding to rabbit cortical 5-HT2A receptors: opposite effects of magnesium.

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These results suggest that the inhibition of striatal dopamine release by adenosine was mediated by adenosine A1 receptor. This inhibition was intensified by Mg2+. This study also revealed that the concentrations of Mg2+, which ranged from physiological to supraphysiological, reduced the striatal dopamine release; furthermore it was found that the physiological concentration of Mg2+ potentiated the effects of adenosine agonists, but inhibited adenosine antagonist.

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These findings suggest that Mg2+ blocks mainly N-type Ca2+ channels at nerve endings, and thus inhibits norepinephrine release, which decreases blood pressure independent of its direct vasodilating action.

 



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#33 Multivitz

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 02:15 PM

5 years? Is that all!? The brain rebuilds itself when parrasites are under control and a healthy balance of oils is in the diet. Address your dietry deficiencies get some moderate exercise and enough D3. You'll be fine.

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#34 Peak

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:12 AM

The nature of cannabis is that it's not a single compound. Each strain has different ratios of actives.

In vaporizers a single strain can produce different effects depending on the temperature of the vaporization.

 

So when people talk about marijuana doing this or that, it's simplistic.

They might be surprised by how differently they'd be affected by a different strain. 

 

Kids who started smoking early will need to readapt, and it will take a while. It's very

hard to tell what was due to environment, pre-existing conditions and any drugs used.

It would be most helpful to not get all paranoid about it worrying about "brain damage".

The brain is a very resilient machine, and things will settle down. The press did us all a

big un-favor by publishing ridiculously unscientific work, supported by the National

Institute on Drug Abuse, that claimed to show damage to all sorts of functionality and

structures of the brain from marijuana, especially in adolescents. These "studies" were

flawed and have long been debunked. They proved nothing at all. 

 

And as a pharmacologist I find discussions, on LongeCity and elsewhere, of the alleged

effects of cannabis OR nootropics on specific receptors and brain structures mostly very

misleading, because we currently haven't  the slightest idea of how the brain works.

 

It's a delusional brandishing of terminology to  talk about hippocampal GABAnergic

this and Cholinergic that, it only serves to impress those who haven't explored these

subjects enough to laugh it off.

 

Trying to apply such fantasies to adjusting one's intake of "supplements" is especially scary.

 

Observation is of great value, as is sharing impressions.

 

But "sharing" about how this or that psychoactive drug affects a particular neurochemical

action in specific regions of the brain, when honest professionals  will tell you how far

we are from comprehending how it all works together to create the human mind, is not helpful.

 

The avalanche of weak studies in the scientific and medical  journals is published with the 

understanding that these are hypothetical micro-probings, largely necessitated by the "publish

or perish" rule. Professionals in those fields know enough not to take them too seriously.

 

The popular press is enamored of these "scientific findings", especially when they claim

to demonstrate the dangers of unsanctioned or illegal drugs.

 

But reading postings of the nootropic community I'm stunned by the greater yet confidence

with which people, who don't seem to have much understanding of the field, quote to each

other misunderstood snippets of very technical micro-probings that started somewhere in

an article. They leap to conclusions and dispense actual recommendations and advice on

what"stacks" to ingest - with a bravura that would make neuropharmacologists shudder. 

 
Example? How about "out there" in the marketplace? 
 

The discovery of the CB1 and CB2 receptors was an important milestone. But Pharma

marketers went crazy thinking they understood it all. They thought that blocking CB1

receptors should serve as a weight loss tool, since THC works on CB1 receptors and

THC increases appetite. This was a case of irresponsible ignorance. The result was

the suicide of several of the test subjects, as the Rimonabant antagonist turned out

to basically block all natural sensations of joy.

 

Folks! It isn't anytime soon we're going to really understand our brains, so let's stop

spreading this pseudo-scientific babble. Nubies, beware. Slowly develop your own

experience, don't listen to people who claim to have it all scientifically figured out.

The real scientists will tell you it's not figured out at all, and you need to be careful. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by Peak, 22 July 2016 - 09:54 AM.

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