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[mrfixituk]

Which is really better and why? They seem to do similar things and wondered which is best for arterial health? My father has vascular dementia - thickened arteries in the brain.

[niner]

They have very different properties, so it's kind of like asking which is better, apples or oranges.  In both cases, it depends.. Vitamin K has effects on calcium homeostasis- in particular, it helps it to stay in the bones where it's needed and out of the vasculature and other soft tissue where it isn't wanted.  Vitamin E is an antioxidant.  Given a choice between the two, I'd give him K and add a mitochondrial antioxidant like c60 olive oil or MitoQ.

[hav]

Which ever way you go, just be careful of interactions with medications.  For instance, if he's already on a blood thinner, Vitamin K may be a bad idea. Similarly high doses of Vitamin E can interact with a variety of medications and seems to have unexplained bleeding issues in some people. See:

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/19019024

 

The above abstract suggests to me that E and K are not a good idea to take together.  If I had to pick one, I'd go with K.

 

Olive Oil and/or C60 might be the path of least interactions. I haven't seen much research on c60 and dementia, just a few Russian abstracts. But there are a number of favorable olive oil studies.  Here's one:

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....es/PMC3689195/ 

 

Personally, I'd throw the C60 in too.  If the anti-oxidant properties of Olive Oil are responsible for the good dementia results, c60 might be even better. Also, keep in mind that c60 and K both benefit from fats for uptake so if you take either or both of them together with olive oil, it should be win-win.

 

Howard

 

[mrfixituk]

Is making a the blood clot more by using vitamin k a good thing???

[Skyguy2005]

Olive Oil contains both vitamin K and vitamin E, and plenty of things that are probably more beneficial than either of them. .

 

Eat Olive Oil, and green things. Then there are many herbal polyphenols from extracts that can enhance autophagy, they may be found in Ginkgo Biloba, Ginseng, Red Wine Extract (resveratrol + stillbenes), Curcumin, Gotu Kola, etc. Then there are herbal mushrooms (and extracts) like Red Reishi, The Lion's Mane, Maitake, etc.

 

I wouldn't personally advise to take all those extracts, too many things potentially may interfere with each other. I personally rely on Ginkgo Biloba and the three mushroom extracts I mentioned. Then you have to check medicines etc. that he is on for potential interactions.

Edited by Skyguy2005, 19 November 2015 - 08:16 PM.