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[rfarris]

In what areas do you feel you've improved the most?

I'm not sure whether you're asking about timing related improvements or improvements related to the ingredients, but in short, almost nine months ago I had a stroke (cerebral hemorrage (sp?)). A friend of mine from Poland gave me a sack full of Nootropil (piracetam) and insisted I take it everyday.

For three months I was simply taking 800mg piracetam daily. At 800mg I wasn't really noticing any effects, but my friend insisted I take it. When my supply ran out I started looking around for a supplier for more piracetam. Google led me here and that's what started the progression to my current stack.

So, in the case of the stack, the most improved areas are that I can communicate far better than six months ago. In addition, I've been able to quit taking sulfylnureas (insulin producer). I've also cut out all my anti-inflammatories (naproxen, mostly). Getting off those meds is very significant to me.

As far as the timing goes, mostly it comes from trying to separate out the water- and oil-soluble items. I had a plan that if I took enough of the oil-based ingredients (like fish oil and borage oil) at the same time that I took the supps that needed to be taken with a fat-containing meal, I could simply take those caps without food. My thinking was that less food would mean more bioavailability of the supps.

That's why I said "I make no claim that my way is better."

[kenj]

or improvements related to the ingredients

Yes.

So, in the case of the stack, the most improved areas are that I can communicate far better than six months ago. In addition, I've been able to quit taking sulfylnureas (insulin producer). I've also cut out all my anti-inflammatories (naproxen, mostly). Getting off those meds is very significant to me.

Very exciting to read.

As far as the timing goes, mostly it comes from trying to separate out the water- and oil-soluble items

Yes. My approach also. For example there are days where I take Aniracetam with oils only. I'm still in the process of opening up a bottle everytime I need a specific nootropic though. I can open and close a bottle faster now than blinking with my eye........ [mellow]

[kenj]

I *like* opening up bottles. Man, I'm hooked on this nootropic thing........... [lol]

[rfarris]

One thing I didn't mention was that my lack of communication was a specific problem caused by the stroke. I lost a lot of words; about 10% of them. Strangely, I lost almost all the words that started with the letter C. I'm 54, so 10% of my vocabulary means it will take around 5 years to get it back.

My point being that I can't claim that others would get the same benefits that I've found.

[purerealm]

as in you lost basically every word from cat to clairvoyant?

[rfarris]

Basically. Not every word, but most. For instance, the building I worked in was on Columbia Street, and it took me about three months to be able to remember that name. I still come across a new C word that I can't remember from time to time. I never ever have a problem with that one four-letter C-word that always make me think of oilfi^H^H^H^H^H some of the people around here. (It's just a joke, OFP!)

And it wasn't only the C-words, but it was sort of like someone ripped most of the C-word section out of my dictionary and a few random other pages too. While I was actually having the stroke, the only words I could utter were words starting with the letter G. Unfortunately, even the words I could get out were gibberish. After five or six days, I got to where I could engage in basic conversation, but even within the last month I've had problems with conversation over the phone. And if you realized how long it takes me to generate these posts you'd feel very sorry for me. At least when typing one has a chance to review and edit several times before posting.

The reason I keep making a point that my supplements might not do the same things for others that they do for me is that in my case, my brain had certain areas trashed by the stroke -- communication, vocabulary and memory, to be precise. Some areas worse than others -- the C-words, for instance. Fixing my brain back up is probably not a lot like the problem for those who have a generally working brain that would like to make it work better.

[oilfieldpilot]

"" that one four-letter C-word that always make me think of...""

Hillary Clinton!!!

[oilfieldpilot]

Rick,
one would never know you have suffered the stroke that you did, at least not by your posts and info! I am really impressed and hope your persistence with the supplements and noo's continue to help you recover.

Who was that bozo who was on here earlier wanting proof to his collegiate 'friends' that nootropics work (yet was too damn lazy to do any research on his own...)?
I think you are walking proof that they do!

Cheers to you, Rick! [thumb] [thumb]

ofp
(aka "C")
[wis]

[hiredavidrnow]

Hey Da sense....

As far as getting insomnia from it, If I take it in the later hours of the afternoon... I get insomnia from DMAE and sometime very vivid dreams. I have found that if I take it in the morning that I do not have these problems.

peace

search some older posts.
to sum it up: some like it, some hate it, thruth is probably in between as always

personally i belive it's a decent stimulant (even if it's just placebo, it's potent placebo compared to others), but i get insomnia from it