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[biggee]

Quoted from a newsletter I am subscribed to;

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[rfarris]

I'm not sure how I think about this "HSI" place, but I found this quote amusing:

Since our Members have been using Policosanol for up to 5 years, they've learned a lot about how to use it correctly. Recently, they've been comparing notes on the online HSI Member's Forum. Those getting the best results point out that the original studies all used a type of Policosanol extracted from sugar cane. Yet the market is now deluged with brands extracted from beeswax, rice brain and other non-sugar-cane sources. And some published studies now suggest that the beeswax versions may not be useful for cholesterol treatment.

I didn't even know that rice had brains!

[mitkat]

Rice brain is a delicacy where I come from. It's harvested only from the most intelligent grains.

[vastman]

In the vastness of the cosmos brainy rice is quite common... the highest IQ levels have been realized from the carmalizing influence of red dwarfs, although it is vastly easier to simply rely on that newsletter. Indeed, in the greater reaches of space there is a move on against the reckless overconsumption of brainy rice by the few of us with vast drives available to us. Thus, such newsletters are filling the void...

[icyT]

In responce to the original article...

Ooh! They have not been silenced by the government conspiracy! They are so courageous about releasing the TRUTH, the things that work! Let's buy from them, to show our support!

Even if it doesn't work... oy... if things really worked, they'd have proof for it and not just dumb testimonials and questionable unduplicatable lab tests.

I don't even need to read the site, I can smell a marketer.

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tyciol wrote;

In responce to the original article...
Ooh! They have not been silenced by the government conspiracy! They are so courageous about releasing the TRUTH, the things that work! Let's buy from them, to show our support

Did I hit some nerve here?

Even if it doesn't work... oy... if things really worked, they'd have proof for it

Now, what is the truth, "I don't even need to read the site, I can smell a marketer"?

not just dumb testimonials and questionable unduplicatable lab tests

Wow, have you investigated this HSI? Please share......

I don't even need to read the site, I can smell a marketer.

Are free things only true? Marketer=liar? And if you are referring to me being a marketer. That is an outright lie, and I don't appreciate your tone, buddy...

" There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance--that principle is contempt prior to investigation." -- Herbert Spencer

[rfarris]

" There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance--that principle is contempt prior to investigation." -- Herbert Spencer

Ok, fine, but what about the brainy rice?

[biggee]

Ok, fine, but what about the brainy rice?

Don't blame ya, Rice brains are enough to give anyone contempt, typo or nut.....

[mitkat]

tyciol wrote;

In responce to the original article...
Ooh! They have not been silenced by the government conspiracy! They are so courageous about releasing the TRUTH, the things that work! Let's buy from them, to show our support

Did I hit some nerve here?

Now, what is the truth, "I don't even need to read the site, I can smell a marketer"?

Wow, have you investigated this HSI? Please share......

Are free things only true? Marketer=liar? And if you are referring to me being a marketer. That is an outright lie, and I don't appreciate your tone, buddy...

" There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance--that principle is contempt prior to investigation." -- Herbert Spencer

Yeah, you might of hit a nerve. Don't take it personally, though. The world of supplements (and commercialism, really) is full of people trying to make a quick buck, and in the realm of science-oriented products, nothing is worse than fake write ups, misleading test results, and con men posing as well informed individuals looking out for the well-being of others. I would think also with the American Bush administration going to be locking down on even more drugs and supplements, this would be a sensitive topic.

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mitkat wrote;

The world of supplements (and commercialism, really) is full of people trying to make a quick buck, and in the realm of science-oriented products, nothing is worse than fake write ups, misleading test results, and con men posing as well informed individuals looking out for the well-being of others.

Yes I fully understand that. HSI however has been around a long time and have over 100,000 subscribers and some really top notch doctors, practitioners and researchers. They have thier own online forum and if someone has issues with thoer claims etc... you can be sure to "nail them to the wall" so to speak if you suspect or know that they are trying to pull something over on anyone. They are not hiding from anyone. If they had something to hide you can be certain they wouldn't expose themselves like that.

I would think also with the American Bush administration going to be locking down on even more drugs and supplements, this would be a sensitive topic.

No doubt. All the more reason to dig and find trustworthy info....

One thing I have noticed is the amount of hatred so many people have for anyone that should try to bring some truth to the fore front. They are often slammed or attempted to be shut down and ridiculed by distractions evasions etc... I know this all to well and it never is a good rosey feeling when people do that to one when thier basic desire is to grow and help others by sharing information. Reminds me of what Plato said; "Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool"

[mitkat]

I don't think anyone is hateful of you wanting to bring the truth to the forefront. It was just written in such a way that screamed snake oil and was easy to be taken as pure marketing. It looks too fantastical, even after a thorough read.

I think your article is a type of writing that's polarized to the reader. You either respond really well to it and get sucked into it, or you don't. I didn't, tyciol didn't. Don't be offended.

And no, not just free things are true, but this is a community that prizes knowledge, and why should we have to pay for it?

[rfarris]

I didn't, tyciol didn't.

I didn't either!