simple, is indium sulfate proven to have any toxicity in humans? and what should one avoid supplementing it with? Anybody else who has experience with this chemical, please feel free to chime in.

Indium Sulfate
#1
Posted 15 February 2006 - 09:12 PM
simple, is indium sulfate proven to have any toxicity in humans? and what should one avoid supplementing it with? Anybody else who has experience with this chemical, please feel free to chime in.
#2
Posted 15 February 2006 - 09:41 PM
#3
Posted 15 February 2006 - 09:48 PM
#4
Posted 15 February 2006 - 09:50 PM
Does anyone have any further info on how it works *or any more personal experiences?
#5
Posted 15 February 2006 - 09:52 PM
#6
Posted 15 February 2006 - 10:23 PM
#7
Posted 15 February 2006 - 10:38 PM
It's reported to have a very wide range of benefits. I've been taking 3 or 4 drops of it everyday for the last 3 years. A dose is considered to be 1 drop for every
50 lbs of body weight on a empty stomach.
I don't feel it's done me any harm or caused any bad side effects. Almost all of the claims are anecdotal. I feel most of the claimed benefits were a bust for me.
It's said to regrow and recolor hair. I have male pattern balding. It had a very slight effect on growth, but no effect on color for me.
It might have helped my endurance a little but not much.
I think It helped me sleep a little better, but not much.
It may have helped with my energy level, but not much.
I didn't notice any mental improvement.
The reason I keep taking it everyday is because I believe It cured very bad heart burn that I had for almost 15 years. I used to live in a lot of pain. The only thing that helped me was zantac and tagomet, but the relief was always only temporary. 1 month after starting Indiumease I had a minor heart burn attack that I used zantac to cure. That was the last time I ever had heart burn. Now no matter what I do I never get heart burn. Not a trace. Curring heart burn is not one of the claims I've seen, but who cares. I still have the bottle of zantac that I bought 3 years ago. I never need it now.
You can find it online from $19 to $21 for about a 3 month supply
#8
Posted 15 February 2006 - 11:22 PM
So, in your situation I can understand and justify your believe that the claims are anecdotal, since the amounts of Inso4 that you take are minimal.
Please refer to George Bonadios patent, in wich it is stated the quantities required per weight of the individual
Dosage quantities are quite important, and also concentration amounts of the mineral, the Indium I get contains 2 grams of Inso4 per bottle, the bottle last me about a month and it costs $25 plus shipp per bottle.
I have look for the cost of obtaining Inso4 from chemical labs, the cost is $7.75 to $10 per gram of Inso4, with a minimum purchase of $250 - $300 dollars. and they will not dsell to private parties.
Just do the math, do you think they are selling to you at cost [lol]
Be assured that the guys from Indiumease are getting their money from you!
Dont feel bad, I had bougth Indium samples pretty much from evrybody in the internet. And I ve been taken more often than not
#9
Posted 16 February 2006 - 12:40 AM
I take it from what you are saying that the dose I'm taking is too small. I weight about 200lbs. I've never tried taking more than about 4 drops of Indiumease. I've always just followed what it says on the bottle.
#10
Posted 16 February 2006 - 05:03 PM
My suggestion is that you get a concentration of at least 2 to 3 grams of indium sulfate per 1/2oz bottle, take 2-4 drops twice a day and then adjust the intake according to how you feel.
I dont quite remember what is the concentration from INDIUMEASE brand, but, try taking 4 drops in the morning and 2-4 at evening, experiment, there is no overdosage (you know that)
Indium-XL brand is quite good, but the prices are very expensive, they use to sell the bottle at $75 dollars, supposedly will last you 3 months, not so.
I request my mixture from supplier once to twice a month, they have money back if you dont like the product return the unused portion for full refund (not too many will offer that), they have two presentations one 1/2 oz bottle with 2grs of Inso4 and 1/2 bottle with 4grs of Inso4 The 2 grs bottle last you about a month and it sales for $25 plus shipping the 4grs goes for $40 plus shipping (last I check, but they are very consistent price wise).
I have also tryed DMSO and Indium sulfate, the assimilation is not quite the same, DMSO seems to work better with organics, I would still feel the effects but kind of dull, DMSO is another topic that eventually could explore, since I have tried with nootropic mixture, and some of the results were quite surprising (topical applications in all instance)
#11
Posted 16 February 2006 - 05:55 PM
#12
Posted 16 February 2006 - 06:02 PM
Indium-XL contains Indium sulfate. Indium is a rare trace element. Each drop contains 10 mg of Indium sulfate equal to 4 mg of pure Indium.
#13
Posted 16 February 2006 - 06:55 PM
#14
Posted 16 February 2006 - 11:29 PM
My supplementation is B-150 1 pill, 2-3 times a week; indium almost daily, a week on , couple of days off; phosphatidilserine 2 caps 50mg a day when in class, otherwise twice to three times a week, selegiline 1 cap 5mg every 3 or 4 days; vinpocetine and alpha lipoic acid evry couple of days.
Edited by simple, 16 February 2006 - 11:44 PM.
#15
Posted 16 February 2006 - 11:44 PM
All (soluble) indium compounds are highly toxic, damage the heart, kidney, liver, and are be teratogenic.
#16
Posted 16 February 2006 - 11:52 PM
Also i quote that pregnant women that have used Indium sulfate during pregnacy, had easier births and faster recoop time and no post partum depression, no know congenital malformations reported
#17
Posted 17 February 2006 - 12:34 AM
Like Platinum chloride. Soluable platinum compounds are just as toxic, yet this is a 'cure' for some types of cancer...
#18
Posted 17 February 2006 - 03:54 AM
It gives me drive, focus, stamina, no anxiety, its sinergistic with a few of other elements that I take, and I will not get into details, but since it seems that all of this has caused a bit of conmotion I am setting a wager,.
I will present two bottles of Inso4 to any two credible long term members (at least a year) that are involved in this topic and has doubts of its effectiveness .
The two people willing to try it will have to do so for a month, for the first two weeks will refrain from taking any other supplement except for two dosis of Indium a day .
Dosage will be based on age, state of health and weigth.
The test individuals will be different ages, one at least 35 to 40 years old, the second your choice
I will risk $60 bucks of my own money, will compare notes daily if possible , if you like the stuff you pay my cost of the bottle ($25) I will cover shippment, if you dont like it, my loss, so, who is gain ?
I will present to the forum, before any observance by the part of the experimentors, my expected daily or weekly outcome of the test on a time frame basis and we will compare on real time against your results.
#19
Posted 17 February 2006 - 04:03 AM
#20
Posted 17 February 2006 - 06:27 PM
#21
Posted 17 February 2006 - 08:40 PM
#22
Posted 28 March 2006 - 05:24 AM
Again, I can only quote the study's from Dr. Henry Schroeder, Indium from the group of rare metals that were studied was the only mineral that didn't present toxicity (i feel like i opened a can of worms), toxicity would be present at extreme large intake of the solution, again, it is not my intention to convince anybody of my results with it, and I can only tell you my experience with it, and so fAR IS BUT ONE OF THE FEW ELEMENTS THAT I WOULD NOT BE WITHOUT.
It gives me drive, focus, stamina, no anxiety, its sinergistic with a few of other elements that I take, and I will not get into details, but since it seems that all of this has caused a bit of conmotion I am setting a wager,.
I will present two bottles of Inso4 to any two credible long term members (at least a year) that are involved in this topic and has doubts of its effectiveness .
The two people willing to try it will have to do so for a month, for the first two weeks will refrain from taking any other supplement except for two dosis of Indium a day .
Dosage will be based on age, state of health and weigth.
The test individuals will be different ages, one at least 35 to 40 years old, the second your choice
I will risk $60 bucks of my own money, will compare notes daily if possible , if you like the stuff you pay my cost of the bottle ($25) I will cover shippment, if you dont like it, my loss, so, who is gain ?
I will present to the forum, before any observance by the part of the experimentors, my expected daily or weekly outcome of the test on a time frame basis and we will compare on real time against your results.
I would be interested in trying the Indium for anxiety control etc, I will send you a PM to discuss in greater detail.
#23
Posted 30 May 2006 - 03:16 PM
I'm new at this forum, though I've been reading your discussions for a while.
I'm curious, do you still take Indium and, if you do, is there anything else about it you have discovered?
From your previous emails it seems really interesting. What concerns me though is whether In. makes one passive and a sort of spectator of life rather than participant? I wouldn't want to spend a lot of time staring at my big toe. What I mean I wonder if it makes you feel indifferent and unmotivated?
I appreciate any comments you have.
#24
Posted 30 May 2006 - 05:32 PM
I ordered more Indiumease and after 2 days of taking 3 drops first thing in the morning the heart burn stopped. When I say stopped I mean as in like It never happened and nothing I can do will make it come back, unless I stop taking Indiumease.
I have no idea why, or how this works. Obviously it's something I need. If it wasn't for the heart burn I wouldn't think it did much.
#25
Posted 30 May 2006 - 05:55 PM
I guess you haven't noticed any mental impact. Glad you got rid of you heartburn.
I've ordred some Indium XL yesterday, so we'll see. It is just that "window pane" Simple mentioned I still wonder about.
#26
Posted 26 October 2006 - 04:27 PM
#27
Posted 28 October 2006 - 12:24 AM
I've tried it but can't really say much because I got pneumonia shortly after (not related) and had to quit. I had noticed that weird detached feeling Simple mentioned, though it could be attributed to being ill.
#28
Posted 07 February 2007 - 02:57 AM
Again, I can only quote the study's from Dr. Henry Schroeder, Indium from the group of rare metals that were studied was the only mineral that didn't present toxicity (i feel like i opened a can of worms), toxicity would be present at extreme large intake of the solution, again, it is not my intention to convince anybody of my results with it, and I can only tell you my experience with it, and so fAR IS BUT ONE OF THE FEW ELEMENTS THAT I WOULD NOT BE WITHOUT.
It gives me drive, focus, stamina, no anxiety, its sinergistic with a few of other elements that I take, and I will not get into details, but since it seems that all of this has caused a bit of conmotion I am setting a wager,.
I will present two bottles of Inso4 to any two credible long term members (at least a year) that are involved in this topic and has doubts of its effectiveness .
The two people willing to try it will have to do so for a month, for the first two weeks will refrain from taking any other supplement except for two dosis of Indium a day .
Dosage will be based on age, state of health and weigth.
The test individuals will be different ages, one at least 35 to 40 years old, the second your choice
I will risk $60 bucks of my own money, will compare notes daily if possible , if you like the stuff you pay my cost of the bottle ($25) I will cover shippment, if you dont like it, my loss, so, who is gain ?
I will present to the forum, before any observance by the part of the experimentors, my expected daily or weekly outcome of the test on a time frame basis and we will compare on real time against your results.
I'd like to take you up on this, simple. I emailed you today again to follwow up with the emails we shared quite some time ago...
#29
Posted 07 February 2007 - 03:48 AM
#30
Posted 07 February 2007 - 01:08 PM
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