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[Jiminy Glick]

Hi, I just bought some 5-HTP for anxiety and I bought a 200 mg dose. I've read reviews that it causes stomach pain and sure enough this was right. I also got a bad headache. I know it has a short half-life. Should I be taking one in the morning and one before bed? Would 400 mg be too much? I could definitely feel the positive effects but the negative effects outweighed the positive effects. The stomach pain and headache might only last for a couple doses.

 

Is this product safe? 

 

Current supplements: 

 

Picamilon

Phenibut 2x a week

Moderate Kratom

5-HTP

Magnesium Taurate 

Protein and vitamin drinks 

Edited by Jiminy Glick, 17 April 2017 - 01:54 PM.

[PeaceAndProsperity]

Christ, it's a waste of money, useless supplement. Don't impulse buy and read what you are buying.

[Jiminy Glick]

Christ, it's a waste of money, useless supplement. Don't impulse buy and read what you are buying.

 

Haha I know what you said on the dopamine thread. However 5-HTP does get into the brain and increase serotonin in the brain. This is my second day on it, I will report how I feel tomorrow. 

Further elaboration from you in terms of it being a waste of money would be appreciated. I need to fix my anxiety and I will do it. Do you prefer L-Tryptophan?

Edited by Jiminy Glick, 17 April 2017 - 05:57 PM.

[PeaceAndProsperity]

If you have anxiety then it is 100% overactivity of some neurotrasmitter. Some NTs reduce activity of others (inhibitory) hence gaba hypofunction causing anxiety. blabla.

Serotonin itself strongly CAUSES anxiety. It seems as for causes of especially social anxiety (NT hyperfunction): Serotonin > glutamate > noradrenaline > dopamine. Look to reduce monoaminergic NT activity and not increase it. Lemon Balm is good

[Jiminy Glick]

If you have anxiety then it is 100% overactivity of some neurotrasmitter. Some NTs reduce activity of others (inhibitory) hence gaba hypofunction causing anxiety. blabla.

Serotonin itself strongly CAUSES anxiety. It seems as for causes of especially social anxiety (NT hyperfunction): Serotonin > glutamate > noradrenaline > dopamine. Look to reduce monoaminergic NT activity and not increase it. Lemon Balm is good

 

Isn't this view of not increasing serotonin against standard medical practice as in if I went into a doctor's office they would prescribe me Prozac for social anxiety? Not that there is anything wrong with going against the mainstream and most of those doctors aren't even trained in brain medicine. There is really no way to tell if I have low serotonin or not without a blood test. Anyways, I think I will try your approach. Lemon Balm seems to have a lot of calming ingredients in it. Any recommended brands?

 

Edited by Jiminy Glick, 17 April 2017 - 07:25 PM.

[PeaceAndProsperity]

Serotonin depletion = no depression or anxiety but various other issues. Serotonergics for anxiety act on either specific receptors that are inhibitory or they work simply by desensitization of receptors.

[Jiminy Glick]

Serotonin depletion = no depression or anxiety but various other issues. Serotonergics for anxiety act on either specific receptors that are inhibitory or they work simply by desensitization of receptors.

 

What brand do you recommend for Lemon Balm? By the way the 5-HTP is working great.

Edited by Jiminy Glick, 18 April 2017 - 03:48 PM.

[PeaceAndProsperity]

You are indirectly activating both anxiogenic and anxiolytic receptors at the same time. That's silly.

I am not sure what the purpose of asking for brand is, they all work. Lemon Balm is a simple supplement.

[Jiminy Glick]

You are indirectly activating both anxiogenic and anxiolytic receptors at the same time. That's silly.

I am not sure what the purpose of asking for brand is, they all work. Lemon Balm is a simple supplement.

 

Well for many supplements it matters how it is grown and where it is grown for example Rosea Rhidiola is best in Siberia. But yeah I am definitely going to buy Lemon Balm. But I am telling it was weird my anxiety was really decreased today at work. I felt very calm, no panic attacks or hot flashes from anxiety or other major symptoms, only anxiety for a little bit then I recovered extremely quickly, overall I felt a very comforting and confident feeling and my overall mood was good. I am going to experiment with this.

 

Anyway L-Dopa is anxiogenic yet is euphoric when it creates dopamine so I think the desired feeling should be euphoria over just relaxation right?

 

A person could suffer from lower serotonin and low gaba does that mean they do not supplement the serotonin and achieve an optimal state of adequate levels of neurotransmitters?

Edited by Jiminy Glick, 18 April 2017 - 06:29 PM.

[PeaceAndProsperity]

Anxiolytic is not the same as relaxed. Dopamine can both cause euphoria and dysphoria, it's very complex and dependent upon receptors and parts of the brain as well as interaction with other neurotransmitters.

Glutamate is one of the NTs that interacts with serotonin to a great deal and can increase serotonergic activity and levels as seen in autism where glutamate levels and activity are too high.

[Jiminy Glick]

Anxiolytic is not the same as relaxed. Dopamine can both cause euphoria and dysphoria, it's very complex and dependent upon receptors and parts of the brain as well as interaction with other neurotransmitters.

Glutamate is one of the NTs that interacts with serotonin to a great deal and can increase serotonergic activity and levels as seen in autism where glutamate levels and activity are too high.

 

I am getting off 5-HTP, I like my mood before it better. Thanks. Youou should look into Kratom if you haven't already. Tremendous anti-anxiety/euphoric properties. Also what are your thoughts on glycine?

Edited by Jiminy Glick, 19 April 2017 - 12:11 PM.

[PeaceAndProsperity]

Glycine only works for a few days. I know about kratom's properties, that's why it's so popular in the recreational drugs circle. It's a drug of abuse that people claim can't be abused so it should be legalized. lol

[Jiminy Glick]

Glycine only works for a few days. I know about kratom's properties, that's why it's so popular in the recreational drugs circle. It's a drug of abuse that people claim can't be abused so it should be legalized. lol

 

Well people do use Kratom as a recreation drug but people also use it to get off opiates, alcohol, and just use it for a replacement for opiates so they don't get addicted if they had a surgery or something. People also use it for anxiety and depression. It is a stimulant but it also relaxes you and you can get high off of Kratom. I am about to buy some Glycine and Lemon Balm. Glycine is still a inhibitory neurotransmitter either way depending on if you feel the effects or not so it is still supplementing your body. So it might not be a powerful supplement by itself (like Picamilon isn't) but if you combine the two maybe there could be strong anti-anxiety effects.