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Posted 08 October 2022 - 02:45 PM

Grooovin: thanks for your reply...

 

 

After a 14 day rest period from 42 Cavadex suppositories and 4 IV's, I am happy to report my WBC count went up from 2.8 to 5.9. What caused the spike down initially is beyond my comprehension. Both blood tests had perfectly normal parameters and the Cavadex does not seem to affect any of my results other than the questionable WBC count. I am now back on one Cavadex (remchol suppository) per day for the next 14 days and will do another blood test at that time to test for WBC. When I am done doing 100 Remchol suppositories, I will do a Calcium heart scan to see if my calcification score has declined from 2200. Despite this very high score, I have no angina and no other symptoms and swim 40 laps every other day. An acquaintance who had a Calcium score of only 140 had 2  arteries with 85% blockage. Since being on both multiple counts of Cavadex (suppository and some IV) and also some Plaquex, he no longer witnesses any pain when he exercises.


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Posted 08 October 2022 - 04:05 PM

Grooovin: thanks for your reply...

 

 

After a 14 day rest period from 42 Cavadex suppositories and 4 IV's, I am happy to report my WBC count went up from 2.8 to 5.9. What caused the spike down initially is beyond my comprehension. Both blood tests had perfectly normal parameters and the Cavadex does not seem to affect any of my results other than the questionable WBC count. I am now back on one Cavadex (remchol suppository) per day for the next 14 days and will do another blood test at that time to test for WBC. When I am done doing 100 Remchol suppositories, I will do a Calcium heart scan to see if my calcification score has declined from 2200. Despite this very high score, I have no angina and no other symptoms and swim 40 laps every other day. An acquaintance who had a Calcium score of only 140 had 2  arteries with 85% blockage. Since being on both multiple counts of Cavadex (suppository and some IV) and also some Plaquex, he no longer witnesses any pain when he exercises.

Simply said HPBCD does exactly what it always does ..make lipids soluble .

 

I went from having and 100 mg viagra and 20 mg cialis not working 70-80% of the time to using 50 mg viagra and going a second round. Also my BPH vanished and my eyesight got clearer (night vision to be specific.. I just get in and drive again lol)

 

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Posted 08 October 2022 - 05:28 PM

Grooovin: thanks for your reply...

 

 

After a 14 day rest period from 42 Cavadex suppositories and 4 IV's, I am happy to report my WBC count went up from 2.8 to 5.9. What caused the spike down initially is beyond my comprehension. Both blood tests had perfectly normal parameters and the Cavadex does not seem to affect any of my results other than the questionable WBC count. I am now back on one Cavadex (remchol suppository) per day for the next 14 days and will do another blood test at that time to test for WBC. When I am done doing 100 Remchol suppositories, I will do a Calcium heart scan to see if my calcification score has declined from 2200. Despite this very high score, I have no angina and no other symptoms and swim 40 laps every other day. An acquaintance who had a Calcium score of only 140 had 2  arteries with 85% blockage. Since being on both multiple counts of Cavadex (suppository and some IV) and also some Plaquex, he no longer witnesses any pain when he exercises.

There is a a way to measure blood flow in your body ...from what I understand you measure your cuff BP then your ankle BP. It's broad but it is systematic.

 

I think it may be a protocol for effectiveness.


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Posted 08 October 2022 - 07:11 PM

Google Microvascular Systems. They have an instrument, very much like a high tech tongue depressor that measures your blood flow on a computer screen with a device held under the tongue.  The blood vessels under the tongue are indicative of the rest of the 60,000 mile network of vessels in one's artery, vein and capillary system. Of note is the glycocalyx that line the endothelial cells responsible for dilation and good circulation. https://glycocalyx.com/about/



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Posted 08 October 2022 - 07:14 PM

Google Microvascular Systems. They have an instrument, very much like a high tech tongue depressor that measures your blood flow on a computer screen with a device held under the tongue.  The blood vessels under the tongue are indicative of the rest of the 60,000 mile network of vessels in one's artery, vein and capillary system. Of note is the glycocalyx that line the endothelial cells responsible for dilation and good circulation. https://glycocalyx.com/about/

Great technology , but is it available for the average consumer yet??



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Posted 08 October 2022 - 08:19 PM

Yes....at several locations....You can actually view your blood moving on a computer screen...They have a dozen parameters on circulation and give you a score. I was 5.6 out of 10...I believe my score is much higher today given my nutritional diet.

 

https://microvascula...lycocheck-test/



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Posted 08 October 2022 - 08:34 PM

https://microvascula...lycocheck-test/

 

This is the correct video for the glycocheck test.  It is an incredible invention...seeing your red blood cells actually moving through the veins and capillaries under your tongue. The key to good circulation is the endothelium which is responsible for dilation. The endocalyx lining the endothelium prevent microbes from adhering to vessel walls causing inflammation, pitting of the vessel and the buildiup of calcified placque. So using cyclodextrin is not the key to good circulation even though it is certainly helpful in preventing a heart attack or stroke by removing clots and placque.



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Posted 11 October 2022 - 02:03 AM

Ok so over the weekend I did 108 Grams , the switch to lactated ringers was a big success. No fatigue or feeling things were off.  
Still had some heaviness in my kidney , however much much milder than with the saline. The recovery time seems to have shortened as well.
Ordered all the items to make my own lactose ringer solution, I will be going for a PH of 7.2-7-3 . The Baxters brand I ordered is listed as 6-7.2 I figure if I am mixing my own I might as well have it closer to the the blood serum PH.

So after some thought I figure I have wasted at least 100 grams by mixing doses and then not being up to taking them. Adjusting my ingested dose to 3100 ...well close to it. 

Taking a 10 day break to wash out and then I will resume and get to my 3200 milestone.

Be easy guys.



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Posted 11 October 2022 - 01:01 PM

Grooovin....That's an awful lot of grams to consume. And to think I am concerned about taking just 2 grams a day of Cavadex suppository (Remchol). Do you know how many grams a day of IV that the Niemann Pick children are taking and for how long? According to Cyclo Trappsol, the company is in stage 2 trials for Alzhemers and stage 3 for Nieman Pick disease. . If it works to remove amyloid placque in the brain.....that would be huge...! The company doing this work is a public stock exchanged company with the symbol CYTH. They are several years away from completion of their trials with the Nieman Pick Children and also Alzheimer. Phase 3 and Phase 2 trials with the FDA ,,,and fast track approval process. Very impressive!!! but speculative.



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Posted 11 October 2022 - 01:26 PM

The body only keeps cyclodextrin in the system for about 90 minutes and it isn't absorbed it just stays in the blood serum . It's actually the weakest part of this process because the time limits the effectiveness .  I do believe the dose they are giving the NPC kids is at the equivalent for my weight of 252 over 8 hours 2 days a week.  I am way below that. 

The thing I want to stay away from is the adverse effect on hearing which from the most sensitive animal study is 4 grams per kilogram in a singe dose for me that would 260 gram in a sitting . 

 

I am way below the harmful thresholds. I did have some symptoms but as I eventually found out was from the saline solution and was not related to HPBCD.

 

Here is the expanded access for the treatment of NPC kids study. 

 

https://ojrd.biomedc...3023-019-1207-1

 

From the poorly reported Cavadex study I put together the fuzzy math that the rate of reduction of plaque is about 10% for every 400grams and it seems about accurate. 

 

Lucky for me I can measure progress with my penis and  doing more fuzzy math I reach the conclusion that the rate of blockage from the age I started having ED problems to the point where pills started losing the effect is about 3.3% per year from age 28 to my current age of 54.

 

I have read and reread all information so many times lol... I do statistics in my career so it's only natural  that I tried to come up with a math based solution on this unknow treatment and the results seem to agree with my numbers.


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Posted 11 October 2022 - 02:12 PM

Grooovin....Based upon your own statistical configuration .....how much Cavadex (Remchol) would be necessary for a 145 lb person who has a high level of calcification (2200 in a CAC score). Given that one suppository supplies 8 grams of Cyclo Dextrin with 2 grams of stated absorbability...Thanks for your response.



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Posted 11 October 2022 - 02:27 PM

That is a lot to digest considering I am not a medical professional. My first question is are you having symptoms? My very brief research indicates that you can have a high score but not be at immediate risk for an adverse event.

 

What I can say with confidence is that you should be doing the IV route, it's not easy but it is a helluva lot quicker . This is a very safe substance , from what I have read far less side effect's than statins or even the drug the give for BPH. 

 

The biggest problem is with delivery to the blood stream... This was the hardest part of what I have done ...after 9 months though I can deliver 18 grams in a sitting of 20 minutes and be about my day. 

 

The delivering of HPBCD is it's biggest hurdle everything else about it is easy and the rewards are very obvious. I would suggest a routine of 200 grams a month in the a PH buffered solution that could easily be delivered in 2 10 gram sessions per day.

 

It seems intimidating a first but ...if you really think about it there are full on drug addicted people injecting themselves daily in much less sterile conditions with a twisted mind that manage to live for it. You on the other hand could be saving or enhancing your life. TOUGH DESCISION !!!

 

If you don't feel comfortable with IV you could try a subcutaneous injection to increase your delivered doses.. I tried this because it was easier to deliver but it was like walking around with be stings for 2 days. Also tried intramuscular injections which was a big painful NOPE.



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Posted 11 October 2022 - 03:21 PM

Grooovin....Based upon your own statistical configuration .....how much Cavadex (Remchol) would be necessary for a 145 lb person who has a high level of calcification (2200 in a CAC score). Given that one suppository supplies 8 grams of Cyclo Dextrin with 2 grams of stated absorbability...Thanks for your response.


Everybody's genetics are different. Some people only need a few 100 grams total. Some need more. I take cavadex tubes as well. After my 2nd box I could walk an hour and half a day with no pain where as before I could only walk for 15 minutes before I was tired and had chest pain. The remchol trial showed 55% plaque clearance with only 300 grams cavadex. I know others that have taken tubes and all got significantly better. Some people take a month. Some take 6 months. I took a tube in the morning and a tube at night. Tubes are safe and effect. Self injecting non sterile cyclodextrin off the street is crazy and dangerous and not necessary imo. Someone could literally die self administering IVs and it's not necessary anyways. Another note. I brought this to my doctor months ago and he talked to the cavadex people. They only use 6 gram IVs 3 or 4 times a week. They say its more about duration of use ( months ) that they may due a few IVs then switch to tubes anyway.

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Posted 11 October 2022 - 11:22 PM

Thank you for your response.. It is very comforting to know that the Remchol is working for you and others.  So far I have done a box and half of Remchol.  I was under the impression that there was no Remchol  suppository trial but the good results came from the Cholrem IV's. As I have previously stated that even though I have a high calcium score, I only had a slight bit of angina once. I continue to exercise via swimming  and biking with no symptoms. Also  for the last 16 months a nutritional protocol similar to Dr. Esselstyn and Dr. Ornish ....low oil and fat and the addition of magnesium, k-7, Vitamin D, chanca piedra, collinsonia root and other nutrients.



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Posted 12 October 2022 - 04:26 PM

Thank you for your response.. It is very comforting to know that the Remchol is working for you and others.  So far I have done a box and half of Remchol.  I was under the impression that there was no Remchol  suppository trial but the good results came from the Cholrem IV's. As I have previously stated that even though I have a high calcium score, I only had a slight bit of angina once. I continue to exercise via swimming  and biking with no symptoms. Also  for the last 16 months a nutritional protocol similar to Dr. Esselstyn and Dr. Ornish ....low oil and fat and the addition of magnesium, k-7, Vitamin D, chanca piedra, collinsonia root and other nutrients.

Yeah the IV route is an obstacle, it's a bit of a mental breakthrough to start pumping stuff into your veins. I guess since I have almost died once I look at my body a little differently and don't have a fear of needles. 

I also keep 3 different antibiotics on hand just in case of sepsis. I had 3 occasions that I feel I needed to use them over this 9 month treatment period. 

 

The biggest issue is that you have to keep everything sterile ...that is the biggest danger even in the studies with the NPC kids (the had an issue with the catherers becoming infected. The other issue that I just discovered was which IV solution to use .. I was using saline totally unaware that the PH was causing me other issues that I blamed on anemia and other things. 

 

The reason why I have contributed here is so the people that follow will have it a bit easier , I mean avoiding heart surgery is a huge fucking deal.


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Posted 13 October 2022 - 11:25 AM

Progress Report

Took 3 days to recover from what I guess is the slight temporary kidney dysfunction that is listed in the studies..probably will give myself another day or 2 before I attempt sex honestly. 
The difference in the solution is so much better, I mean I don't have test to measure everything but most of the symptoms I was having went away or were much less severe ..fatigue was a non event. Water absorbtion was definitely better and I didn't have the lack of urine volume, however it does seem to be a dehydration issue still but much milder. 
So using my fuzzy math this 208 grams over a 10 day period should be a 5% improvement and it didn't disappoint , harder than I have been since at least 30 and most noticeably harder at the base ..much harder. 
I will be observing time to get an erection... to be honest I am like just recovering so I need to be fully recovered as I just got my nocturnal erections back last night.

I will update if I notice any other improvements or problems. Otherwise I will be back at 3200 grams.



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Posted 14 October 2022 - 01:58 PM

We went over this already but I will further explain. I am 54 and the last time my erections were excellent was at 24-27 so using 30 years to bring me at a point of total dysfunction which I will consider as 100% dysfunctional leads me to an increase in dysfunction of about 3.3% per year. 
400 grams seems to equal about 10% reduction in dysfunction. So in order to achieve 100% would lead me to the amount of 4000 grams. 
Like I said I could stop now and just be functional, but why wouldn't I see if it's possible to not need any medication since I have already gotten this far. I am literally 800-900 grams away and keep seeing improvement . 
Also since there isn't any studies on this information has the potential of helping others.

After I have reach my goal I will do maintenance which should be a maxium of 200grams per year which will be a breeze.



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Posted 14 October 2022 - 07:14 PM

We went over this already but I will further explain. I am 54 and the last time my erections were excellent was at 24-27 so using 30 years to bring me at a point of total dysfunction which I will consider as 100% dysfunctional leads me to an increase in dysfunction of about 3.3% per year. 
400 grams seems to equal about 10% reduction in dysfunction. So in order to achieve 100% would lead me to the amount of 4000 grams. 
Like I said I could stop now and just be functional, but why wouldn't I see if it's possible to not need any medication since I have already gotten this far. I am literally 800-900 grams away and keep seeing improvement . 
Also since there isn't any studies on this information has the potential of helping others.

After I have reach my goal I will do maintenance which should be a maxium of 200grams per year which will be a breeze.

 

Just a reminder that the human body and metabolism are not "linear". Just because some therapeutic generates a small percentage of benefit DOES NOT mean that a greater amount of that therapeutic will generate similar benefits. Most of the time, larger amounts end up being poisonous or detrimental for health. A famous phrase in medicine is "the dose makes the poison".


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Posted 17 October 2022 - 05:43 PM

Just a reminder that the human body and metabolism are not "linear". Just because some therapeutic generates a small percentage of benefit DOES NOT mean that a greater amount of that therapeutic will generate similar benefits. Most of the time, larger amounts end up being poisonous or detrimental for health. A famous phrase in medicine is "the dose makes the poison".

Just a reminder I have actual experience, If I would listen to you instead of the data that I could obtain I would be making no progress or helping others.

 

I have taken 3000+ Grams and all my numbers are good.

 

It seems that you don't know what you are talking about at all .

 

It's perfectly fine for you to do nothing . It's also perfectly fine for you not to comment if you really have nothing meaningful to share.

 

I guess the gist is that you don't seem to base these negative opinions on anything factual obtained from any study.. just an old wives tale type of quote. Also this post lacks basic understanding of the subject matter , because you mention metabolism while in fact this substance is not metabolized. Then the fact that there is currently long term studies indicating that people who are having double the doses I am taking have no toxic effects, this leads me to believe that instead of studying any related information you are just saying stuff to discourage. If this was a warning based off of anything I would appreciate it.  You just seem to be typing disaproval of what I am successfully doing with my own body seems a bit miserable if you ask me.


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Posted 17 October 2022 - 08:01 PM

Just a reminder I have actual experience, If I would listen to you instead of the data that I could obtain I would be making no progress or helping others.

 

I have taken 3000+ Grams and all my numbers are good.

 

It seems that you don't know what you are talking about at all .

 

It's perfectly fine for you to do nothing . It's also perfectly fine for you not to comment if you really have nothing meaningful to share.

 

I guess the gist is that you don't seem to base these negative opinions on anything factual obtained from any study.. just an old wives tale type of quote. Also this post lacks basic understanding of the subject matter , because you mention metabolism while in fact this substance is not metabolized. Then the fact that there is currently long term studies indicating that people who are having double the doses I am taking have no toxic effects, this leads me to believe that instead of studying any related information you are just saying stuff to discourage. If this was a warning based off of anything I would appreciate it.  You just seem to be typing disaproval of what I am successfully doing with my own body seems a bit miserable if you ask me.

 

And let me remind you that your evidence of reversing atherosclerosis mainly consist of perceived stronger erections (which is highly subject to both physiological and psychological influence), which on at least one instance you stated happened immediately after a self injection (to say that it's extremely unlikely that cyclodextrin can reverse atherosclerosis immediately is a massive understatement).

 

If you can't tolerate people expressing opinions contrary to your own you're going to have a very difficult time here.


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Posted 17 October 2022 - 08:53 PM

And let me remind you that your evidence of reversing atherosclerosis mainly consist of perceived stronger erections (which is highly subject to both physiological and psychological influence), which on at least one instance you stated happened immediately after a self injection (to say that it's extremely unlikely that cyclodextrin can reverse atherosclerosis immediately is a massive understatement).

 

If you can't tolerate people expressing opinions contrary to your own you're going to have a very difficult time here.

 

My dear dear Daniel , I am not having a hard time hear. 

You see as anyone can look up that the majority of ED is indeed caused by blood flow which is directly related to atherosclerosis. Which HPBCD has been proven effective at removing.

 

So while I understand the burden of proof is on me , you just don't have my experience , you have other studies to confirm the logic of what I am doing.

 

In line with the burden of proof, I have every right to call out people that would base a theory of harm with no study to support their theory. Yes sir I will call that out as the same person called for studies. 

 

It kind of bothers me that 2 moderators would have this kind of illogical behavior. When this topic went from dead to the hottest topic on this site. I am sure this is not a coincidence.

 

At any rate  I will keep honestly report progress , problems, mistakes etc . If you would like to fund a study by a qualified urologist in my area I would gladly take you to provide EQ measurements so we could a non partisan observation.

 

 

Much success to your endeavors.


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Posted 18 October 2022 - 12:19 AM

https://microvascula...lycocheck-test/

 

This is the correct video for the glycocheck test.  It is an incredible invention...seeing your red blood cells actually moving through the veins and capillaries under your tongue. The key to good circulation is the endothelium which is responsible for dilation. The endocalyx lining the endothelium prevent microbes from adhering to vessel walls causing inflammation, pitting of the vessel and the buildiup of calcified placque. So using cyclodextrin is not the key to good circulation even though it is certainly helpful in preventing a heart attack or stroke by removing clots and placque.

You know you are very much wrong on the blood flow statement... I mean think about it how could you have blockage in arteries due to calcifications and it not effect your blood flow.

 

https://www.mayoclin...to a blood clot.

 

Whether it's heart disease , ED, PAD , Ischemia the usually do the same procedure which is a stent....the reason is to increase blood flow due to blockage.

 

:text=An%20internal%20pudendal%20artery%20stent,dysfunction%20and%20decreased%20erection%20hardness' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>https://www.sandiego...ection hardness.


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Posted 18 October 2022 - 12:28 AM

Thank you Daniel for moderating this board as you seem to have extensive knowledge on this subject.

 

I mentioned previously that when I took about 100 grams of Cavadex, I saw my white blood cells go down from over 5.0 to 2.8. Never have they ever been so low without any signs of infection. After a 14 day pause the reading came back to 5.9.

 

I realize macrophage cells are involved in cholesterol transport. One poster here on this site quoted a website that seemed to make a lot of sense:

 

"The reason why we never evolved to break down cholesterol when its harming us is probably because our cells have cholesterol everywhere. So you couldn't evolve something that just chews cholesterol whenever it sees it. And that's why delivering things like the known cyclodextrins that bind to cholesterol is not quite simple either, because the first thing that will happen if you dump a bunch of cyclodextrins into somebody is that their blood turns to mush, because it will consume all your blood cells by hooking all the cholesterol out of cell walls."

 

I haven't heard any other posters state that their white blood cell count went down after taking Remchol suppositories. Whether this was the causal agent for my low WBC count is something I hope to find out. Neither does the Cavadex website discuss that this is a problem. What about the Nieman Pick Children?

 

I also wonder if anyone here has concrete research on their Coronary Calcium Score before and after cyclodextrin?

 

 



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Posted 18 October 2022 - 12:33 AM

Thank you Daniel for moderating this board as you seem to have extensive knowledge on this subject.

 

I mentioned previously that when I took about 100 grams of Cavadex, I saw my white blood cells go down from over 5.0 to 2.8. Never have they ever been so low without any signs of infection. After a 14 day pause the reading came back to 5.9.

 

I realize macrophage cells are involved in cholesterol transport. One poster here on this site quoted a website that seemed to make a lot of sense:

 

"The reason why we never evolved to break down cholesterol when its harming us is probably because our cells have cholesterol everywhere. So you couldn't evolve something that just chews cholesterol whenever it sees it. And that's why delivering things like the known cyclodextrins that bind to cholesterol is not quite simple either, because the first thing that will happen if you dump a bunch of cyclodextrins into somebody is that their blood turns to mush, because it will consume all your blood cells by hooking all the cholesterol out of cell walls."

 

I haven't heard any other posters state that their white blood cell count went down after taking Remchol suppositories. Whether this was the causal agent for my low WBC count is something I hope to find out. Neither does the Cavadex website discuss that this is a problem. What about the Nieman Pick Children?

 

I also wonder if anyone here has concrete research on their Coronary Calcium Score before and after cyclodextrin?

Interesting , because I have only seen one person say they had a adverse affect on their WBC and calcium scores or better yet arterial scans are necessary for studies. 

Guess what , they have them In the NPC studies. 

 

I have my blood monitored for more than one condition and my WBC has done what it always done which if go up and down . 



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Posted 18 October 2022 - 12:42 AM

You know you are very much wrong on the blood flow statement... I mean think about it how could you have blockage in arteries due to calcifications and it not effect your blood flow.

 

https://www.mayoclin...to a blood clot.

 

Whether it's heart disease , ED, PAD , Ischemia the usually do the same procedure which is a stent....the reason is to increase blood flow due to blockage.

 

https://www.sandiego...ection hardness.

 



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Posted 18 October 2022 - 12:50 AM

Grooovin:: The endothelium which line 60,000 miles of our circulatory system regulate vascular tone and are responsible for dilation whenever we move or do heavy exercise. They have to be fed the right nutrition such as nitrates from green leafy vegetables and other foods which are responsible for them working well. So theoretically, you can remove all the calcification but if the endothelial cells are not up to par, your health could still be at risk as the endothelial cells prevent inflammation. Removal of calcification is not the only criteria for good circulation.



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Posted 18 October 2022 - 12:58 AM

Grooovin:: The endothelium which line 60,000 miles of our circulatory system regulate vascular tone and are responsible for dilation whenever we move or do heavy exercise. They have to be fed the right nutrition such as nitrates from green leafy vegetables and other foods which are responsible for them working well. So theoretically, you can remove all the calcification but if the endothelial cells are not up to par, your health could still be at risk as the endothelial cells prevent inflammation. Removal of calcification is not the only criteria for good circulation.

Ok using your reasoning, Why are stents effective? 

I understand it is systematic response to inflamation, however they do insert stents and it is a temporary solution. Unfortunately everything is a temporary solution for death. So here we are looking for longer term temporary solutions. 

For the love of God can't we find temporary solutions without creating more problems such as people cutting us up.

 

If you want everlasting vitality consult God . I am just trying to figure out how to get through this with knowledge we have.

 

By the way this substance is also being studied for it's antiinflamatory , viral suppression and many other things. 

 

I really shouldn't be surprised because someone at some point had to prove that leeches weren't the answer for the flu simply because everyone was doing it.

 

https://cyclodextrin...g/hpbcd/page/9/

 

 

I keep proving to you guys how much time I have invested in studying this substance , and you all keep trying to hide or give negative responses without reading anything.

 

I will keep dosing and giving you my results.


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Posted 19 October 2022 - 02:07 PM

https://www.scienced...323001300130X  

 

Interesting read, I wonder why they didn't expand this study with the ongoing NPC trial

 

I feel some side effect even after changing to a PH balanced lactose ringers solution 7PH from Saline solution 5.5 , much better but still a bit side effecty.  Definitely seems to be a temporary blood flow problem after large day to day dosages. 

 

I don't feel fatigue like I did with the saline solution but still don't feel absolutely normal. Still not back to normal on day 8 of non treatment. I will keep you guys posted.

 

This makes me wonder if this same dynamic is responsible for the temporary setback for the gentlemen taking it for heart disease. It seems to happen at all dosage levels.  

 

So much missing data , it would be super helpful is they studied the recovery time from this event.


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Posted 22 October 2022 - 12:36 AM

Here is some interesting findings. This is an accumulation of information from human and animal trials of HPBCD in advance of a clinical trial on alzheimer's . It explains some of the side effects I have been experiencing..kind of a summary. Turns out it temporarily increases liver enzymes. Cross reference increased liver enzymes and it reads like some of the things I have experienced that have slowed down my progress.

https://www.alzdisco...yclodextrin.pdf



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Posted 24 October 2022 - 10:33 AM

Results from the last round

Recovery time was 11 days..it's always nerve racking because the first couple of days I can't get hard at all after a large does ... after being able to get an erection again it snaps back in a day or 2.
The results were fantastic seems like more than a 5% increase , as I said before there was a big improvement at the base of the shaft hasn't felt that firm for as long as I can remember. 
I attempted for 2 2 rounders in my last sessions. I got full erections for the second rounds however orgasms weren't on the menu...definitely no complains from anyone lol.

PS from the information I recently discovered about the elevated liver enzymes. This holds weight for me because over the last year I have had some pale clay colored stools which could be associated with liver enzymes.  This is temporary along with the kidney dysfunction. 

So realitstically this stuff has manageable temporary side effects, this is a treatment anyone would want to avoid...however the return of my night vision for driving rocks, now having BPH rocks, now worrying so much about a heart attack or stroke is fantastic as well. 

Thus far I would give this an B+ it would be a solid a but side effects and delivery are not great.. But I can absolutely say the results are worth it. I have a buddy who is doing it for hereditary serious bad heart disease, he is younger and hasn't had any problems but all the markers are there and it it preventative for him. Anyways , he found that they are working on different variations of HPBCD that may make it even more tolerable in the future. I will keep you all posted if we dig up any useful info on these variants.

Giving myself some extra days and trying to figure out my strategy for dosing..it seem with the new information that it is impossible to be side effect free or have full erections for some time after treatment ...If it wasn't for the progress and seeing the light at the end of the tunnel lol.

So I will resume and try to break up my treatment into 3 shots daily for 25 grams total a day for 5 days, my penis pump is handy when the erections fail. 

I was hoping to be done by the New Year , but beginning to think that 240 grams is kind of a more reasonable amount, at any rate trying to listen to my bodies feed back.

Good Luck Guys


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