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[pamojja]

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Edited by pamojja, 02 March 2023 - 07:18 PM.

[pamojja]

This thread is on cyclodextrin.

 

And the documentation of my remissions is of course since many years found in its proper place, the main 'reversing atherosclerosis' thread found on this forum. As well as more detailed in the stack part of the forum.

 

 

If there was a magic pill that reversed cardio-vascular disease with minimal or reasonable side effect and you had it, wouldn't you be foolish not to take it?

 

I haven't seen such a simple solution during 14 years on healtforums with complex disease like artheriosclerosis, COPD, T2D or ME/CFS together. Comprehensive supplementation with good quality ingredients in therapeutic doses, and only as addition to rigorous lifestyle and diet changes had the most credible remissions such otherwise mercylessly progressing chronic diseases.

[Grooovin1]

And the documentation of my remissions is of course since many years found in its proper place, the main 'reversing atherosclerosis' thread found on this forum. As well as more detailed in the stack part of the forum.

 

 

I haven't seen such a simple solution during 14 years on healtforums with complex disease like artheriosclerosis, COPD, T2D or ME/CFS together. Comprehensive supplementation with good quality ingredients in therapeutic doses, and only as addition to rigorous lifestyle and diet changes had the most credible remissions such otherwise mercylessly progressing chronic diseases.

I have to agree not a magic bullet in my case , but it's been the best helper . 

I have used 3500 grams over the course of a little over a year. I started using it because of erectile dysfunction.

It has helped tremendously I have harder erections now than I have had in 25 years, however it has helped with stamina. Now I am working on the cessation of smoking tobacco and cardio endurance. 2 weeks in in my gains have jumped significally, only 2 weeks when normally the cessation of smoking benifits are reported to take 6 months.

This has been a great experience for me because of the following : Harder erections, clearer night vision, no more prostate problems , no more reynauds symptoms......and I swear my memory and mental sharpness has increased. 

The temporary kidney function decrease is worrisome , however when I stop it goes back to a normal range. I did 200 more grams this month and will be taking 2 months off and have my kidney function measured again. 

I will note that it seems when I dose more than 150 a month the side effects from reduced kidney function show up.

 

I will update everyone with my GFR's after a 2 month break , after my last break (1.5 months) my GFR went from 64 to 72. From what I have read to my limited understanding is that the filtration cells get air pockets in them reducing function.

[victory]

Opinion of Noted Cardiologist on Cavadex.

 

"Cyclodextrin Therapy to Rapidly Reverse Atherosclerotic Vascular disease."

 

http://www.heartfixe...yclodextrin.htm

[Grooovin1]

This seems to give a thumbs down for Cyclodextrin as a treatment for atherosclerosis.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC9496214/

So what this is saying is that it doesn't work on lesions , lesions are pretty much scar tissue where the artery/vein has bad damage. After some further reading it does clean up around the lesions but it doesn't remove the scar tissue. 

 

That's why the keep gearing up for studies dealing with atherosclerosis..

[Daniel Cooper]

So what this is saying is that it doesn't work on lesions , lesions are pretty much scar tissue where the artery/vein has bad damage. After some further reading it does clean up around the lesions but it doesn't remove the scar tissue. 

 

That's why the keep gearing up for studies dealing with atherosclerosis..

 

I think you're grasping at straws. I generally see "lesions" and "plaques" used interchangeably in the literature.

 

There was a mouse study that said cyclodextrin reverses atherosclerosis in mice, now we have one that says it doesn't. If you accept one over the other it's because you like the results from the former and not the latter. In my opinion.

 

Take all mouse studies of atherosclerosis with a grain of salt. Mice really aren't at all prone to atherosclerosis and you normally have to take some effort to give it to them (e.g. feed them an artificially high fat Western diet simulator). If you simply stop taking whatever measures you took to induce atherosclerosis it will often times regress on it's own accord, regardless of any intervention.  

 

We use mice as study subjects because they are cheap and don't raise the ire of animal rights enthusiasts, not because they are the best analogs for humans.

[Grooovin1]

I think you're grasping at straws. I generally see "lesions" and "plaques" used interchangeably in the literature.

 

There was a mouse study that said cyclodextrin reverses atherosclerosis in mice, now we have one that says it doesn't. If you accept one over the other it's because you like the results from the former and not the latter. In my opinion.

 

Take all mouse studies of atherosclerosis with a grain of salt. Mice really aren't at all prone to atherosclerosis and you normally have to take some effort to give it to them (e.g. feed them an artificially high fat Western diet simulator). If you simply stop taking whatever measures you took to induce atherosclerosis it will often times regress on it's own accord, regardless of any intervention.  

 

We use mice as study subjects because they are cheap and don't raise the ire of animal rights enthusiasts, not because they are the best analogs for humans.

Plaques are not lesions, in fact this is 2 different studies for that very reason. Words have meaning.

[Mind]

Plaques are not lesions, in fact this is 2 different studies for that very reason. Words have meaning.

 

Are you still doing well with your self-treatment? Any noticeable negative side effects?

[Grooovin1]

Are you still doing well with your self-treatment? Any noticeable negative side effects?

 

I have cut down on dosing so the negative side effects aren't a factor. It seems if I keep it below 150 grams I don't really see a downside.

 

There is a lot that hasn't been studied. So I am really not sure if it was a culmitive effect I mean I was dosing heavy for 7-8 consecutive months.

I did notice on my last round that I felt excellent until I went over 150 grams, however I changed the way I hydrate also.

 

Anyhow it will be low and slow for the remaining 400 grams.

[victory]

>>> There was a mouse study that said cyclodextrin reverses atherosclerosis in mice, now we have one that says it doesn't. If you accept one over the other it's because you like the results from the former and not the latter. In my opinion.<<<

 

Cooper: I think the best explanation is based on the definition of atherosclerosis. Cavadex does and doesn't reverse the disease. If you consider atherosclerosis to be an inflammatory disease of bacterial invasion of the intima of the artery, then Cavadex just removes the calcium and not the cause of the disease. If you consider calcium placque to be the cause of the disease...i.e. hardening of the arteries and markedly low dilation of the blood vessels, then cyclodextrin does get rid of the problem but not the cause.. I prefer the former approach. Lower the oxidized LDL cholesterol with diet and products like niacin, garlic extract, plaquex etc and strengthen the arteries including the  glycolix of the endothelium with products that feed and protect the artery from microbial invasion like Endocalyx, Arterial Protect, Endothelial Defense etc. Go to the website of Nanobactx which presents a good program of decalcifying the artery and biofilm with EDTA and proteolytic enzymes (bromelain, papain etc) and killing the bacteria (cause of inflammatory response) with anti-oxidants like Vitamin C, grapefruit seed extract alpha lipoic acid. Research Dr. Roberts Jr of the heartfixer site and learn about berberine, tocotrienol, panthethene, policosonal and natural products that lower LDL and raise HDL.  Also visit Dr. Gary Mezo of Nanobac for proper guidance and his experience.  Unfortunately, atherosclerosis gets worse year after year...to the tune of 20% to 50% based upon Calcium heart scores. So if your level is 1,000 ...next year it could be 1200 to 1,500. I tried Esselystyn's program and Ornish for 2 years. Placque did not reverse but went up 5% a year...from a score of 2,200 to 2,400 (a success only 5%/year) but I wanted it to go down!!!...but diet is only one factor...stress, exercise are also involved. Also took 140 tubes of Cavadex...Maybe it did work somewhat...Good luck to all...but do your own homework. This site could be more represented by other's who have experience with this terrible disease. Even though I have a high CAC score, I have zero symptoms...age 81 and  prefer to stay away from orthodox cardiologists whenever possible.

[Grooovin1]

>>> There was a mouse study that said cyclodextrin reverses atherosclerosis in mice, now we have one that says it doesn't. If you accept one over the other it's because you like the results from the former and not the latter. In my opinion.<<<

 

Cooper: I think the best explanation is based on the definition of atherosclerosis. Cavadex does and doesn't reverse the disease. If you consider atherosclerosis to be an inflammatory disease of bacterial invasion of the intima of the artery, then Cavadex just removes the calcium and not the cause of the disease. If you consider calcium placque to be the cause of the disease...i.e. hardening of the arteries and markedly low dilation of the blood vessels, then cyclodextrin does get rid of the problem but not the cause.. I prefer the former approach. Lower the oxidized LDL cholesterol with diet and products like niacin, garlic extract, plaquex etc and strengthen the arteries including the  glycolix of the endothelium with products that feed and protect the artery from microbial invasion like Endocalyx, Arterial Protect, Endothelial Defense etc. Go to the website of Nanobactx which presents a good program of decalcifying the artery and biofilm with EDTA and proteolytic enzymes (bromelain, papain etc) and killing the bacteria (cause of inflammatory response) with anti-oxidants like Vitamin C, grapefruit seed extract alpha lipoic acid. Research Dr. Roberts Jr of the heartfixer site and learn about berberine, tocotrienol, panthethene, policosonal and natural products that lower LDL and raise HDL.  Also visit Dr. Gary Mezo of Nanobac for proper guidance and his experience.  Unfortunately, atherosclerosis gets worse year after year...to the tune of 20% to 50% based upon Calcium heart scores. So if your level is 1,000 ...next year it could be 1200 to 1,500. I tried Esselystyn's program and Ornish for 2 years. Placque did not reverse but went up 5% a year...from a score of 2,200 to 2,400 (a success only 5%/year) but I wanted it to go down!!!...but diet is only one factor...stress, exercise are also involved. Also took 140 tubes of Cavadex...Maybe it did work somewhat...Good luck to all...but do your own homework. This site could be more represented by other's who have experience with this terrible disease. Even though I have a high CAC score, I have zero symptoms...age 81 and  prefer to stay away from orthodox cardiologists whenever possible.

I would like to add that I thought this would be the "magic bullet" however , without a doubt I have seen positive changes that I cannot attribute to anything else. 

Did it do all the work ...NO. 

This means I get something to build on with actual lifestyle changes . A opportunity to work on the sources of my inflamation. For some it could mean an avoidance of a serious health episode that could be irreversible.

All in all this is huge because it hasn't really been possible before to do it so quickly.

 

The planned studies should be very enlightening.

 

Further comments on your progress or lack of. This is why I chose the IV route, it is has a higher risk but a higher reward. I did start off trying the enema route however there is just a lot going on in your butt and actual absorbtion is impossible to accurately track ...and this stuff isn't cheap. I have boldness and impatience in my nature and as you can see .

Edited by Grooovin1, 09 April 2023 - 04:27 AM.

[Grooovin1]

MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH!!
For those of you still here you must read this post thoroughly .

Throughout the course of this treatment I have mainly IV'd my doses in the usual places...well turns out I wasn't paying attention...if you reread my original statements when I first started this journey what go me lit on HPBCD is that I was so desperate that I injected a very small amount in my penile dorsal vein and immediately was harder than I had been in years. I knew at that moment it worked...there was no turning back. However giving my fitness background I did not believe that injecting at the "point of attack" would be more beneficial than a 500lb man doing sit ups for ripped abs.
I was wrong... I read an article on a research using this for ischemia on mice  about a year ago and he injected HPBCD right into the affected limb and got very clear results... I still didn't pay attention. 
Throughout the course of this treatment I avoided penile injection for some obvious and sublime reasons.... I think it was a mistake because the Corpa Cavernosa are actually 2 great spots for any IV meds very easy to access . Anyways , my dosing and progress have slowed and I have been trying to get the nerve for penile injections... so me being me I just comitted myself to doing it 2 times a week.
I am just gonna say that it will be the primary way now. I can have sex , take a break and not even worry one bit and this is just the 3rd week of comittment . 
This is a game changer. I get very hard now, I can take breaks and not worry whether it will get back up. I am not running out of gas 25 minutes into sex.... This is huge. 

Maybe I don't understand the penis as much as I thought because I thought it was just the arteries leading into the penis...or perhaps the penis flow is different due to it putting blood in a lockdown slow flow situation (I mean it does throb) . Whatever the mechanisms are I will tell you this there is no turning back from this approach because in 3 short weeks I have gone from it will probably work to not worrying about it .. Amazing!!!

This article is for the vascular diagram of the penis...obviously I am missing something .. Maybe it's the arteries in the Corpa Cavernosa that are being cleaned out ...maybe it's the veins need to be cleared as well .. It isn't making sense but it's working like shit.
https://www.centerfo...normal-anatomy/

This article is about how the researcher treated leg ischemia in mice with injections close to the source of the problem.
https://journals.plo...ne.0125323.g007

Holy shit, holy shit 


I think I am weeks to months to being cured...probably over optomistic . However .....REMEMBER I WAS NONE RESPONDANT TO 200 MG OF VIAGRA 80% OF THE TIME 1.5 YEARS AGO. I WAS HAVING PROSTATE ISSUES ! MY NIGHT VISION WAS SKETCHY AS FUCK. I HAD REYNAUDS SYDROME ON MY LEFT HAND.
ALL THIS SHIT HAS DISSAPEARED!!!
 

[Daniel Cooper]

I'm sorry, this is where you lost me in this story.

 

You believe that you injected CD into your penis and within seconds achieved an erection due to it nearly immediately clearing blocked arteries.

 

I believe that cyclodextrin may possibly clear atherosclerosis over time - but do not believe it to be physically possible to break up arterial plaques in mere seconds. And even were that possible you probably would not want it to occur unless you could be assured that the plaques would dissolve immediately and entirely - otherwise you risk having plaques break off and end up clogging a major cardiac artery.

 

Erectile dysfunction is frequently psychogenic. I think it is far more likely that you were experiencing psychogenic ED and you believed so strongly that injecting your penis with CD would work that it did. After all, it takes a pretty significant degree of faith to stick a needle into one's own organ in the first place. 

 

I'd certainly be prepared to change my mind on this if anyone could show me any case of atherosclerosis reversal on a timescale of minutes or seconds.

 

 

[Grooovin1]

I'm sorry, this is where you lost me in this story.

 

You believe that you injected CD into your penis and within seconds achieved an erection due to it nearly immediately clearing blocked arteries.

 

I believe that cyclodextrin may possibly clear atherosclerosis over time - but do not believe it to be physically possible to break up arterial plaques in mere seconds. And even were that possible you probably would not want it to occur unless you could be assured that the plaques would dissolve immediately and entirely - otherwise you risk having plaques break off and end up clogging a major cardiac artery.

 

Erectile dysfunction is frequently psychogenic. I think it is far more likely that you were experiencing psychogenic ED and you believed so strongly that injecting your penis with CD would work that it did. After all, it takes a pretty significant degree of faith to stick a needle into one's own organ in the first place. 

 

I'd certainly be prepared to change my mind on this if anyone could show me any case of atherosclerosis reversal on a timescale of minutes or seconds.

I only report what I have expereinced. That's all I do . 

 

Take the information or trash it , that is up to you.

 

I want you to think about this however, this isn't a waiting for the medication to take effect or change your bodies reaction. This has been proven to be an almost mechanical action. It works in petri , in vitro and in animals studies. 

 

I am looking forward to more studies truthfully I have just been charting my own course. I never received a study on blood flow to my dick. Obviously from my last post, I don't fully comprehend how everything works. 

 

My question to you is  given the fact that this substance behaves in a mechanical way, not by changes in metabolism, enzymes etc. How long do you think it should take? If you had a clogged toilet and took a plunger to it ....would you wait the next day to see if it was unclogged???

Edited by Grooovin1, 21 April 2023 - 02:50 AM.

[Grooovin1]

I only report what I have expereinced. That's all I do . 

 

Take the information or trash it , that is up to you.

 

I want you to think about this however, this isn't a waiting for the medication to take effect or change your bodies reaction. This has been proven to be an almost mechanical action. It works in petri , in vitro and in animals studies. 

 

I am looking forward to more studies truthfully I have just been charting my own course. I never received a study on blood flow to my dick. Obviously from my last post, I don't fully comprehend how everything works. 

 

My question to you is  given the fact that this substance behaves in a mechanical way, not by changes in metabolism, enzymes etc. How long do you think it should take? If you had a clogged toilet and took a plunger to it ....would you wait the next day to see if it was unclogged???

 

Last thought on this matter did you not read the last post on Cavadex...The Cardio doctor was amazed at the speed...so far we have had many nasty meds that in essence slowed the process. He was amazed that something that took years to clear was accomplished in months . Here is where I am lost, it seem we don't fully understand the dynamics of blood flow to the penis. It's to my knowledge the only part of the anatomy where the body works indepently to close off blood flow by demand. ... So after injection , I ....watch porn to acheive an erection trapping what I can in the process instead of letting it enter my bloodstream . My question with this is "Could this be creating a backward pressure flow to the thousand of arteries in the Corposa. I just don't know.

 

[Mind]

I only report what I have expereinced. That's all I do . 

 

Take the information or trash it , that is up to you.

 

I want you to think about this however, this isn't a waiting for the medication to take effect or change your bodies reaction. This has been proven to be an almost mechanical action. It works in petri , in vitro and in animals studies. 

 

I am looking forward to more studies truthfully I have just been charting my own course. I never received a study on blood flow to my dick. Obviously from my last post, I don't fully comprehend how everything works. 

 

My question to you is  given the fact that this substance behaves in a mechanical way, not by changes in metabolism, enzymes etc. How long do you think it should take? If you had a clogged toilet and took a plunger to it ....would you wait the next day to see if it was unclogged???

 

You have to be prepared for people to be incredulous. The things you report are very very far out of the realm of anything known to human biology, experience, and research. There is no known mechanism to produce the effects you report. You are the first to report anything like this.

[victory]

Groooovin....If one has erectile dysfunction, I suggest they visit the site of Dr. Roberts: Much to learn here.

 

http://www.heartfixe...Dysfunction.htm

[Grooovin1]

You have to be prepared for people to be incredulous. The things you report are very very far out of the realm of anything known to human biology, experience, and research. There is no known mechanism to produce the effects you report. You are the first to report anything like this.

Have we ever had a substance that removed arterial plaque ? 

 

If so fill me in.

 

I will continue to post my experiences , being believed by everyone is unrealistic. When more studies come out I will be vindicated. 

 

That is all.

[Grooovin1]

Have we ever had a substance that removed arterial plaque ? 

 

If so fill me in.

 

I will continue to post my experiences , being believed by everyone is unrealistic. When more studies come out I will be vindicated.  

 

Furthermore there is a reason why phama companies are coming up with their own formulations, the have seen the result. You yourself interviewed a multi million dollar start up , millions invested without a wide ranging clinical trial, wonder why. You have seen the stunning result published by the Cavadex Dr.  

 

The results I got almost immediately was the catalyst for me taking matters into my own hand ...without that fast result I wouldn't be 3.6 kilos in. 

 

That is all.

 

[Grooovin1]

Groooovin....If one has erectile dysfunction, I suggest they visit the site of Dr. Roberts: Much to learn here.

 

http://www.heartfixe...Dysfunction.htm

I had severe ED I mean the pills were not working most of the time. I don't have that problem anymore!! 

 

Thanks for the info but there have been a thousand dead ends, prior to cyclodextrin I tried the shockwave therapy. Wasted $2k.

 

 

I am doing great with this..I actually have before and after witnesses lol!!!

 

 

Then there are other conditions associated with old age that started flaring but have since vanished. I am loving this! There aren't to many things that get better with age physically yet I am lucky enough to have a few.

Edited by Grooovin1, 24 April 2023 - 12:04 PM.

[Richard McGee]

Rocket - 

 

I agree that it is a shame that interest in this compound and it's ability to potentially reverse atherosclerosis has waned.  I think people couldn't get past the potential ototoxicity. 

 

The different varieties of cyclodextrin are discussed in this thread and there are papers from which you can develop some swag at a dose.  The people that are having trouble with ototoxicity are the Niemann Pick patients (almost exclusively children) that are being administered cyclodextrin intrathecally - i.e. into the spinal column.  Cyclodextrin doesn't cross the blood brain barrier so you have to give it intrathecally to those patients who suffer from cholesterol deposits in the brain tissue.  Presumably it also doesn't cross the  blood labyrinthine barrier either so it should not be as much of an issue if administered IV, but we could never establish that with certainty.

 

I was in the camp that IV or other non-intrathecal routes of administering cyclodextrin were likely to have a much lower risk of ototoxicity, and even I didn't have the guts to try it.  I don't want heart disease but I don't want to go deaf either.

 

It's been three years since this thread started, maybe there are new papers that have been published in the interim.  I'll try to do some searching on PubMed in the coming days if no one else takes a crack.

 

BTW - since we generally don't want to self administer IV and cyclodextrin is mostly destroyed in the digestive tract, I think you'd want to look at making this a suppository if you aren't put off by the ick factor. 

 

 

There is a product designed to administer beta CD rectally via suppository. It's pricey, and I can't vouch for its authenticity.

 

https://cholrem-cavadex.com/

 

 

[victory]

Cavadex is authentic....noted Cardiologist Dr. James C. Roberts shows before and after ultrasounds of the Carotid using Cavadex. He is the author of "Reverse Heart Disease Now" along with noted Cardiologist Dr. Stephen Sinatra (2007). In my research...there is no better authority on getting rid of arteriosclerosis without surgery than Dr. Roberts. Stents and drugs are a bandaid.  The heart fixer website includes a wealth of information. Also I suggest you google Nanobactx...a formula using EDTA for decalcification, along with enzymes and antioxidants. Using this formula at night, followed up by CAC scans has proven to work for many individuals. Cavadex is good to get rid of some calcification....but to get rid of this inflammatory disease, forever you need to break open the shell of calcification and biofilm whereby the microbes reside.

 

http://www.heartfixe...yclodextrin.htm

Cavadex is authentic....noted Cardiologist Dr. James C. Roberts shows before and after ultrasounds of the Carotid using Cavadex. He is the author of "Reverse Heart Disease Now" along with noted Cardiologist Dr. Stephen Sinatra (2007). In my research...there is no better authority on getting rid of arteriosclerosis without surgery than Dr. Roberts. Stents and drugs are a bandaid.  The heart fixer website includes a wealth of information. Also I suggest you google Nanobactx...a formula using EDTA for decalcification, along with enzymes and antioxidants. Using this formula at night, followed up by CAC scans has proven to work for many individuals. Cavadex is good to get rid of some calcification....but to get rid of this inflammatory disease, forever you need to break open the shell of calcification and biofilm whereby the microbes reside.

 

http://www.heartfixe...yclodextrin.htm

[Grooovin1]

Nanobactx... Looking into this...

Nanobactx... Looking into this...

[victory]

I spoke to the developer of Nanobactx, Dr. Meso, for a considerable period of time. He is very authentic. In 2002 his formula was used by Dr. Roberts in over 250 patients with excellent results showing major improvement in arteriosclerosis symptoms and reduction in calcification via angiograms and CAC scores. I am now on my fourth bottle of Nanobactx. Around 2014 the formulation was changed. No more EDTA suppository. The EDTA is now incorporated in the pill. No more tetracycline.. A companion product (same formulation) called Urobac was trial tested by Dr. Shoskes of the Cleveland Clinic. Prostate scores improved by 50% within 4 months.  A wealth of information can be obtained here:

 

1) Nanobactx Story:

 

https://www.nanobact...es-page33542890

 

2) Nanobactx Case Histories from Dr. James C. Roberts, Cardiologist (EECP center of NW Ohio Comprehensive Heart Care). Note case histories from 2001 on Calcium Score Reduction. Tetracycline has since been replaced by proteolytic enzymes with patented capsule to bypass stomach acids....250 cases...note Calcium Scores...going down

 

http://www.heartfixe...the Whole Story

 

Note: Cavadex can be utilized in conjunction with Nanobactx.

[Grooovin1]

I spoke to the developer of Nanobactx, Dr. Meso, for a considerable period of time. He is very authentic. In 2002 his formula was used by Dr. Roberts in over 250 patients with excellent results showing major improvement in arteriosclerosis symptoms and reduction in calcification via angiograms and CAC scores. I am now on my fourth bottle of Nanobactx. Around 2014 the formulation was changed. No more EDTA suppository. The EDTA is now incorporated in the pill. No more tetracycline.. A companion product (same formulation) called Urobac was trial tested by Dr. Shoskes of the Cleveland Clinic. Prostate scores improved by 50% within 4 months.  A wealth of information can be obtained here:

 

1) Nanobactx Story:

 

https://www.nanobact...es-page33542890

 

2) Nanobactx Case Histories from Dr. James C. Roberts, Cardiologist (EECP center of NW Ohio Comprehensive Heart Care). Note case histories from 2001 on Calcium Score Reduction. Tetracycline has since been replaced by proteolytic enzymes with patented capsule to bypass stomach acids....250 cases...note Calcium Scores...going down

 

 

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Pretty pricey...gonna do a lot of research on this.  So this is basically EDTA in a pill form. Interesting stuff.

Edited by Daniel Cooper, 07 May 2023 - 04:36 AM.

[Grooovin1]

Posts: 184

Re: Cyclodextrin- Is Curing My ED

Progress has been great. 

Last 2 weeks I think I did about 200 grams most of which I directly injected to both sides of the corpa cavernosa.  As per usual when going over 150 grams there was a temporary setback in function that lasted about 5 days. I heavily hydrated with electrolyted water about a gallon and a half a day up to 2 gallons. I really still haven't completely ruled out dehydration as a reason for the temporary pause in erectile function but have definitely noticed that it seems to correspond with a reduction in urine force . Kidney function  or dehydration or perhaps a bit of both.

The results are faster in better than ever , I actually had full sex with no issues at all twice in one day. Before I could acheive a second erection but the second orgasm just would happen. 

My confidence is sooooo good now I can just enjoy what I am doing with no worries. 

I have about 200 grams to go before I reach my planned treatment of 4000 grams and I am hoping to perform with out any ED drugs at all.

I will keep everyone updated.

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Re: Cyclodextrin- Is Curing My ED

Progress has been great. 

Last 2 weeks I think I did about 200 grams most of which I directly injected to both sides of the corpa cavernosa.  As per usual when going over 150 grams there was a temporary setback in function that lasted about 5 days. I heavily hydrated with electrolyted water about a gallon and a half a day up to 2 gallons. I really still haven't completely ruled out dehydration as a reason for the temporary pause in erectile function but have definitely noticed that it seems to correspond with a reduction in urine force . Kidney function  or dehydration or perhaps a bit of both.

The results are faster in better than ever , I actually had full sex with no issues at all twice in one day. Before I could acheive a second erection but the second orgasm just would happen. 

My confidence is sooooo good now I can just enjoy what I am doing with no worries. 

I have about 200 grams to go before I reach my planned treatment of 4000 grams and I am hoping to perform with out any ED drugs at all.

I will keep everyone updated.

 

 

Oh yeah , 1 last thing . I had an accident injecting the corpa cavernosa. I didn't keep the needle in place and ended up with a subcutaneous injection on the base of my penis about 25 ML went in before I noticed . This has happened before since there is a very fibrous cover over the corpa and a lot of loose skin. So I had a little water ballon action for 24 hours before it was absorbed. Not really painful but definitely uncomfortable. The result is that I am guess the very top layer of skin suffered from depletion of fat/cholesterol and died off.. it peeled off withing 4 days and is looking normal again . No real damage, this is about the 3rd time this has happened so I didn't freak out just took some antibiotics and let my body do it's thing. 

 

Edited by Grooovin1, 16 May 2023 - 04:45 PM.

[Grooovin1]

Hey guys.. just another update on my break after being over enthusiastic on my treatment again.  I keep waffling back and forth between hydration and kidney function as a delay in performance. Well I have been hydrating like crazy waiting for the bounce back...I don't think this is hydration alone although it may be a contributor.  Due to the temporary nature of an effect on kidneys which is usually not reversible it led me down the rabbit hole of kidney disease and erectile dysfunction in which there is an overwhelmingly direct connection.
This lead me to the following study on the mechanism for this.

:text=Sexual%20dysfunction%20is%20highly%20prevalent,the%20general%20population%5B1%5D' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>https://www.ncbi.nlm...l population[1].


And further study led me to this....

:text=The%20overall%20production%20of%20nitric,further%20progression%20of%20kidney%20damage' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>https://journals.phy...f kidney damage.

And finally this...

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC8109295/

For those who don't like to read and for the symptoms of ....too much treatment. It all makes sense now, the decrease in kidney function leads to less nitrous oxide which lead to less blood flow on "demand" . 

I am not a doctor but this seems to make sense in that I can go from full performance to non performance depending on dosage frequency.

As I am using observation an published scientific study do your own research but there seems to be a definite connection. 

Planning a month off but to be realistic with my crazy ass ... I will see how everything feels and go from there. Unfortunately even though I have discussed this with my heart disease ridden doctor, she has given no attention to the current research. In honesty I don't blame her as the current state of physicians in this country seems more geared toward promoted medicines than solutions.  I am however gonna present her with a printed copies of all available research on my next visit which will be probably met with scorn ..honestly I don't give a fuck.

[Grooovin1]

Swagger back.
I know it works, It doesn't have to be played with constantly to stay hard. I can focus on my partner again. 

Being realistic , It not to the level of a healthy non smoker in  his 30's . But I am none of that lol. The biggest improvement is that once aroused it stays hard , not defying gravity hard but still that is remarkable considering. I can now take my time instead of rushing just because it hard. Swagger.

I really want to dose today , however as my body returns to normal I believe kidney function wise . I have decided to  resume dosing next week .Injection in the corposa  seems to be the game changer in using it for this purpose.

Swagger back.
I know it works, It doesn't have to be played with constantly to stay hard. I can focus on my partner again. 

Being realistic , It not to the level of a healthy non smoker in  his 30's . But I am none of that lol. The biggest improvement is that once aroused it stays hard , not defying gravity hard but still that is remarkable considering. I can now take my time instead of rushing just because it hard. Swagger.

I really want to dose today , however as my body returns to normal I believe kidney function wise . I have decided to  resume dosing next week .Injection in the corposa  seems to be the game changer in using it for this purpose.

[victory]

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Sun, Jun 18 at 9:48 AM

 

 

[Grooovin1]

Hey guys it's been awhile since I have updated here. This is mainly an Erectile Dysfunction matter so have been sticking to those pages lately.

 

Here is the scoop I annouced my breakthrough a few weeks ago and the progress has been fantastic . 

 

My routine is inject 6 grams  (greatly reduced as not to interupt my kidney function especially concerning nitric oxide which is extremely important for erections) via alternating side and positions in length to the corpora cavernosa. I use a cock ring in an attempt to keep it in the local area and have incorporated weighted kegel exercises as soon as finished injecting 100 ml of solution ( lactated ringer) .

 

The results are absolutely fantastic, I would say that viagra now work BETTER than it did when I first started taking it 25 years ago..yep that good. This is way beyond the pace I expected.

 

I am gonna go 3 injections this coming week ...down from 5 then I am gonna have a moment of truth because I will be taking my dose of viagra from 100 to 50.

 

I will update with the results and wish everyone luck in the endeavors.