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[theCLK]

Hi there -

 

I've been dealing with mercury toxicity, which hasn't been pleasant in the least. It's been causing me quite a bit of concentration and focus problems, especially as I use chelation therapy. I worked with a number of doctors and practitioners to come to this conclusion with testing, hopefully, my brain will recover. My brain is having a signal -- noise problem, feeling very scattered. I know that mercury affects the NDMA receptor among many other things (https://molecularbra.../1756-6606-5-30) what kind of supplements or pharmaceuticals might help in this regard? Maybe Memantine?

 

Thank you so kindly!

[Mind_Paralysis]

Magnesium-L-Threonate might help, it's an actually active NMDA-antagonist, and was also developed for the treatment of Alzheimers.

 

Be prepared to go HIGH in your dosing though...! Most of us that have tried it, which have actual issues with hyperactive NMDA-activity, have come to the conclusion that it's quite weak.

 

 

Now, it should be mentioned, that some, whom have Schizophrenia or DP/DR, which are diseases with the exact opposite problem, have reported some rather gravely bad effects, with worsened symptoms.

 

 

However, it still doesn't seem to be anywhere near as powerful as Memantine, as it doesn't cause the same kind of brain-fog as Mem'.

[theCLK]

Thanks Stink, How high is high? Does it have to be threonate?

[Mind_Paralysis]

Thanks Stink, How high is high? Does it have to be threonate?

 

High is about 4 caps per day, they come in 667 mg, soo... 2,67 GRAMS worth of Mag-LT. The total of Magnesium is not as high though, more like 1 gram -  which, mind you, is still a lot.

 

It has to be Threonate, because that's the only one which has effects on the brain, it crosses the blood-brain barrier via the aminoacid transporter for Threonate, that's how it helps with neurogenesis and lowers NMDA-hyperactivity.

 

It's kind of fitting that it's a metal which can compete with Mercury as well, if taken in high enough doses, yes?

 

Hmm... I just realized... some of your symptoms... according to some sources they could be because of the displacement of ANOTHER metal than Magnesium to Mercury...!

 

Zinc.

 

https://evenbetterhe...ing-mercury.asp
 

Replacement reactions, also called fight for site, occur when mercury (usually with a +2 charge) grabs the biological spaces which should be filled by necessary minerals. Symptoms that can be caused by a deficiency of minerals displaced by mercury include:

 

• Zinc: anorexia nervosa, loss of taste and smell, loss of appetite, low libido, PMS

 

 

You've got low libido, right?

 

Mercury blocks magnesium and manganese transport required for memory, resulting in lowered ability to concentrate

 

 

More notes regarding magnesium and Mercury here:

https://books.google...mercury&f=false

 

 

Might be a good idea to load up on Zinc citrate, or perhaps Zinc Glycinate, to get some even more NMDA-antagonistic action, as well as modulation of the immune-system.

 

Just remember that you CAN'T take both supplements at the same time! They both compete for the same transporter in some places, so to get the full effect, you have to space them with at least an hour in-between both supplementation, and any meals. Since both compounds, especially when combined, is known to cause sleepiness, take them in two intervals towards the evening - Zinc at 20.00 hours and Magnesium at 21.15 hours.

Just had a double-check, and it would appear as if Mercury is INDEED an NMDA-AGonist! Perfect... With the dual use of Zinc and Magnesium, you shall out-compete it and lower NMDA-activity drastically!

 

 

Of course, if you truly have some form of ADHD as well, then it would be beneficial too, since ADHD-ers have a naturally higher activity in their NMDA-networks, which has been shown to be a part of the pathology - Memantine for instance, does indeed improve symptoms for some with the disease.

 

GO FORTH AND ANTAGONISE YOUR NMDA-RECEPTORS YOUNG ONE! : D

 

 

PS:

I'd take apart the capsules of one of the MagLT-caps and let it absorb sublingually, to make absolute certain that it reaches your brain - apparently this works, as several have noticed that the anxiolytic effects of MagLT is wastly improved via sublingual administration. It should be noted that the taste is somewhat strange though... not necessarily bad, but very unusual.

[ThreeKings12341]

what kind of chelation therapy have u been doing?

[YOLF]

what kind of chelation therapy have u been doing?

Was about to ask the same thing.

 

Garlic, EDTA, Cilantro, and lots of other stuff can help to chelate mercury. There's a new S-acetyl glutathione form of glutathione that is apparently very good for penetrating deep into tissue. 

 

Be careful with EDTA, it can have side effects, even in small doses. 

 

Here's an article from LEF:

http://www.lifeexten...ication/Page-11

[ThreeKings12341]

 

what kind of chelation therapy have u been doing?

Was about to ask the same thing.

 

Garlic, EDTA, Cilantro, and lots of other stuff can help to chelate mercury. There's a new S-acetyl glutathione form of glutathione that is apparently very good for penetrating deep into tissue. 

 

Be careful with EDTA, it can have side effects, even in small doses. 

 

Here's an article from LEF:

http://www.lifeexten...ication/Page-11

 

ty:)

i know edta can have many side effects, im doing a kind of a klinghardt detox atm

 

do you maybe know how to detox copper, because i read that copper is related to emotional numbness

im gona ask my doc next week about this (2nd appointment) ,

[Mind_Paralysis]

 

 

what kind of chelation therapy have u been doing?

Was about to ask the same thing.

 

Garlic, EDTA, Cilantro, and lots of other stuff can help to chelate mercury. There's a new S-acetyl glutathione form of glutathione that is apparently very good for penetrating deep into tissue. 

 

Be careful with EDTA, it can have side effects, even in small doses. 

 

Here's an article from LEF:

http://www.lifeexten...ication/Page-11

 

ty:)

i know edta can have many side effects, im doing a kind of a klinghardt detox atm

 

do you maybe know how to detox copper, because i read that copper is related to emotional numbness

im gona ask my doc next week about this (2nd appointment) ,

 

 

Before you start assuming that your emotional numbness is caused by Copper, you might want to actually test your copper-levels and other electrolytes, to figure out if there really is some imbalance there...

 

A simple blood-test should be enough.

 

It should be noted, that high magnesium would cause emotional numbness as well, since it's the most potent NMDA-antagonist of these metals, and NMDA-antagonism inhibits emotion, as seen in how powerful NMDA-antagonists are for anxiety, as well as the blunted affect visible in people whom have Overdosed on NMDA-antagonists (people with drug-induced DP/DR often get it from using Ketamine, Memantine or other such compounds - someone even got it from OD-ing on Magnesium-L-Threonate! However, he was admittedly already slipping into such a state and was filled with anxiety and depression prior to using the high dosage, so he was already at risk).

[ThreeKings12341]

 

Before you start assuming that your emotional numbness is caused by Copper, you might want to actually test your copper-levels and other electrolytes, to figure out if there really is some imbalance there...

 

A simple blood-test should be enough.

 

It should be noted, that high magnesium would cause emotional numbness as well, since it's the most potent NMDA-antagonist of these metals, and NMDA-antagonism inhibits emotion, as seen in how powerful NMDA-antagonists are for anxiety, as well as the blunted affect visible in people whom have Overdosed on NMDA-antagonists (people with drug-induced DP/DR often get it from using Ketamine, Memantine or other such compounds - someone even got it from OD-ing on Magnesium-L-Threonate! However, he was admittedly already slipping into such a state and was filled with anxiety and depression prior to using the high dosage, so he was already at risk).

 

 

thx for the info

 

hmm. my serum/blood copper is actually pretty low. but ive heard that those tests are not really meaninful because u cannot see how much toxix heavy metals are in the cells of your body?, and i think that copper in the blood and toxic heavy metal copper is a bit different isnt ?

 

anyway i got tested on mercury(high) etc through blood , but like i said i heard those tests are not significant...

 

stink: what i still find funny is that through the gentle detox im doing at the moment, i stopped compulsive skin picking after 4 days of detoxing and im already on day 30 or something.. or maybe the vitamin komplex im taking helped for that but after 4 days that cant make any difference i think.. but still i dont skin pick anymore and ive done that for 17 years definitely. (only other time i stopped was last year when n-ac plus nicotine helped me so much)

 

 

[YOLF]

 

 

what kind of chelation therapy have u been doing?

Was about to ask the same thing.

 

Garlic, EDTA, Cilantro, and lots of other stuff can help to chelate mercury. There's a new S-acetyl glutathione form of glutathione that is apparently very good for penetrating deep into tissue. 

 

Be careful with EDTA, it can have side effects, even in small doses. 

 

Here's an article from LEF:

http://www.lifeexten...ication/Page-11

 

ty:)

i know edta can have many side effects, im doing a kind of a klinghardt detox atm

 

do you maybe know how to detox copper, because i read that copper is related to emotional numbness

im gona ask my doc next week about this (2nd appointment) ,

 

That article offers alot of chelation advice, including for copper. Alpha lipoic acid, glutathione, and n-acetyl-cysteine can be used. S-acetyl glutathione is probably effective for this too. 

[YOLF]

 

 

Before you start assuming that your emotional numbness is caused by Copper, you might want to actually test your copper-levels and other electrolytes, to figure out if there really is some imbalance there...

 

A simple blood-test should be enough.

 

It should be noted, that high magnesium would cause emotional numbness as well, since it's the most potent NMDA-antagonist of these metals, and NMDA-antagonism inhibits emotion, as seen in how powerful NMDA-antagonists are for anxiety, as well as the blunted affect visible in people whom have Overdosed on NMDA-antagonists (people with drug-induced DP/DR often get it from using Ketamine, Memantine or other such compounds - someone even got it from OD-ing on Magnesium-L-Threonate! However, he was admittedly already slipping into such a state and was filled with anxiety and depression prior to using the high dosage, so he was already at risk).

 

 

thx for the info

 

hmm. my serum/blood copper is actually pretty low. but ive heard that those tests are not really meaninful because u cannot see how much toxix heavy metals are in the cells of your body?, and i think that copper in the blood and toxic heavy metal copper is a bit different isnt ?

 

anyway i got tested on mercury(high) etc through blood , but like i said i heard those tests are not significant...

 

stink: what i still find funny is that through the gentle detox im doing at the moment, i stopped compulsive skin picking after 4 days of detoxing and im already on day 30 or something.. or maybe the vitamin komplex im taking helped for that but after 4 days that cant make any difference i think.. but still i dont skin pick anymore and ive done that for 17 years definitely. (only other time i stopped was last year when n-ac plus nicotine helped me so much)

 

Addition of competing metals can sometimes displace those sequestered in cells, pyruvic acid and other AHAs can remodel the ECM if any gets sequestered there. There are also cosmetic peptides that do this, though they can contain copper.

[YOLF]

Found this reading up on the Klinghardt:

 

Looks pretty condemning for mercury fillings. I think the best way to solve the problem would be to extract the tooth and work on it outside of the patient's mouth. Then stick it back in the way one gets their tooth replaced after getting it knocked out.

 

Actually, I think I have 3 of these that my dentist didn't want to fix around a decade ago. I'm wondering if I shouldn't just pull them myself with pliers.

Edited by YOLF, 06 September 2017 - 10:38 PM.

[theCLK]

@ Stink - thanks mate, that's some interesting information.. I have some Memantine around, maybe i should give that a shot first?

@ ThreeKings, I'm using a combination of Quicksilver IMD and Emeramide.

 

@ Yolf - Cilantro is a low bond chelator, it will move things around in your brain/body, not the best idea. Also! Please don't mess with hg+ in your mouth, have a certified dentist do the work, or you could have years of brain dysfunction like me.

[YOLF]

@ Stink - thanks mate, that's some interesting information.. I have some Memantine around, maybe i should give that a shot first?

@ ThreeKings, I'm using a combination of Quicksilver IMD and Emeramide.

 

@ Yolf - Cilantro is a low bond chelator, it will move things around in your brain/body, not the best idea. Also! Please don't mess with hg+ in your mouth, have a certified dentist do the work, or you could have years of brain dysfunction like me.

You pulled the tooth out? I don't see how that could lead to mercury poisoning unless I swallowed it...

[theCLK]

It's a whole tooth! Oh - ya I can't see that being a problem then..

[YOLF]

It's a whole tooth! Oh - ya I can't see that being a problem then..

Lose a tooth or have a volume of mercury sitting in my mouth... They do make partial dentures you know... I see it as eliminating risks. I can always have a replacement implanted someday, and they are saying that they will be cloning teeth which I guess is the better option I'd wouldn't mind waiting for. So I don't have to live with the lost tooth forever, just a few more years until these lab grown teeth are ready.

[theCLK]

don't they have some PEMF kind of thing that help you grow teeth yet?

[YOLF]

There are some green lasers and light wavelengths that accelerate regrowth of enamel. But I'd be afraid of swallowing the fillings if they were to pop out. I'm guessing it would happen while I'm chewing.

[ThreeKings12341]

theclk:

 

what benefits have u noticed so far from detoxing your body from heavy metals?

[Oinen]

theCLK, any updates?