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Supplements for Hypnosis, Trancing, and increased Alpha Waves?

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#1 Mr Serendipity

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 02:23 PM


I'm getting back into self hypnosis, but the main problem I have is trancing. I've tried plenty of inductions (including the elman induction), plenty of different tapes by different authors, practiced a lot, but it's always a hit or miss going into trance.

 

The best way I've found to trance, is do it before bed, usually when I've taken liquid magnesium. But a lot of the time I don't know whether I fell alseep, or hit a trance state and then fell asleep.

 

Now I don't want this thread to turn into topic of best methods to trancing/self hypnosis which aren't related to supplements. I want to focus on the biological/chemistry aspect that may help.

 

I know Theanine has been proven to increase alpha waves, and I think it helped in the past. But I haven't seen any other supplement which has been proven to do this.

 

Are there any other supplements people think would be good to help with trancing?

 

My current plan is to try the following supplements before doing a hypnosis session:

 

  • Liquid Magnesium
  • Passionflower
  • Chamomile
  • Taurine
  • Theanine

 

I'm just waiting for them to arrive.

 

Other supplements which may help (which I haven't bought) are:

 

  • Bacopa
  • Lemon Balm
  • Kava

 

 

I guess what I think would work, are supplements that help relax you, without making you drowsy.

 

Any suggestions?

 


Edited by manny, 08 October 2017 - 02:24 PM.


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:03 PM

OK so after coming across this website: https://bebrainfit.c...stress-anxiety/

 

There was a link to research which showed GABA increases alpha waves: https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/16971751

 

 

The effect of orally administrated gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) on relaxation and immunity during stress has been investigated in humans. Two studies were conducted. The first evaluated the effect of GABA intake by 13 subjects on their brain waves. Electroencephalograms (EEG) were obtained after 3 tests on each volunteer as follows: intake only water, GABA, or L-theanine. After 60 minutes of administration, GABA significantly increases alpha waves and decreases beta waves compared to water or L-theanine. These findings denote that GABA not only induces relaxation but also reduces anxiety. The second study was conducted to see the role of relaxant and anxiolytic effects of GABA intake on immunity in stressed volunteers. Eight acrophobic subjects were divided into 2 groups (placebo and GABA). All subjects were crossing a suspended bridge as a stressful stimulus. Immunoglobulin A (IgA) levels in their saliva were monitored during bridge crossing. Placebo group showed marked decrease of their IgA levels, while GABA group showed significantly higher levels. In conclusion, GABA could work effectively as a natural relaxant and its effects could be seen within 1 hour of its administration to induce relaxation and diminish anxiety. Moreover, GABA administration could enhance immunity under stress conditions.

 

It's good that they compared it the l-theanine. According to this study, an oral ingestion of GABA significantly increases alpha waves compared to l-theanine.

 

Now they don't seem to sell GABA in the UK as far as I can tell, though I could easily import it.

 

But I previous thread I made in 2010 might help me out: Is Glutamine a good way of raising GABA in the brain?

 

So I think I'll get some Glutamine and start taking a teaspoon in the morning. At least this way it might help correct any GABA deficiency I might suffer from, and make going into alpha waves more easy. And then I can use GABA enhancing/acting herbs/supplements to help nudge my brain a little further into alpha waves.

 

Another supplement I forgot to mention is Picamilon, which may help.



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:08 PM

Here's another study I found: https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/22203366

 

y-Aminobutyric acid (GABA) is a kind of amino acid contained in green tea leaves and other foods. Several reports have shown that GABAmight affect brain protein synthesis, improve many brain functions such as memory and study capability, lower the blood pressure of spontaneously hypertensive rats, and may also have a relaxation effect in humans. However, the evidence for its mood-improving function is still not sufficient. In this study, we investigated how the oral intake of GABA influences human adults psychologically and physiologically under a condition of mental stress. Sixty-three adults (28 males, 35 females) participated in a randomized, single blind, placebo-controlled, crossover-designed study over two experiment days. Capsules containing 100 mg of GABA or dextrin as a placebo were used as test samples. The results showed that EEG activities including alpha band and beta band brain waves decreased depending on the mental stress task loads, and the condition of 30 min after GABA intake diminished this decrease compared with the placebo condition. That is to say, GABA might have alleviated the stress induced by the mental tasks. This effect also corresponded with the results of the POMS scores.

 


Edited by manny, 09 October 2017 - 11:09 PM.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 10:41 PM

That study surprises me since the conventional wisdom is that GABA only crosses the BBB in insignificant quantities if at all.

 

 

 



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:22 PM

What's your self-hypnosis process?

 

 

Nootropics that can help:

Noopept

Piracetam

 

 

Source:

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/21414388

 

Piracetam increased alpha/beta1 EEG activity in the left frontal cortex, and alpha activity in both the right cortex and hippocampus, with a 10-min latency and 40-min duration. Noopept increased alpha/beta1 activity, with 30-min latency and 40-min duration in all brain areas.

 

 



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:39 PM

Perhaps a teaspoon of ashwagandha. A lot of the things mentioned here seem GABA related. 


Edited by Jiminy Glick, 13 October 2017 - 06:43 PM.


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 04:20 PM

Get a smartphone, things off apps that stimulate different brainwaves with a particular sound.

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 04:10 PM

1. Alcohol.

 

Alcohol increases hypnotic susceptibility.

 

 

 

One approach to hypnosis suggests that for hypnotic experience to occur frontal lobe activity must be attenuated. For example, cold control theory posits that a lack of awareness of intentions is responsible for the experience of involuntariness and/or the subjective reality of hypnotic suggestions. The mid-dorso-lateral prefrontal cortex and the ACC are candidate regions for such awareness. Alcohol impairs frontal lobe executive function. This study examined whether alcohol affects hypnotisability. We administered 0.8 mg/kg of alcohol or a placebo to 32 medium susceptible participants. They were subsequently hypnotised and given hypnotic suggestions. All participants believed they had received some alcohol. Participants in the alcohol condition were more susceptible to hypnotic suggestions than participants in the placebo condition. Impaired frontal lobe activity facilitates hypnotic responding, which supports theories postulating that attenuation of executive function facilitates hypnotic response, and contradicts theories postulating that hypnotic response involves enhanced inhibitory, attentional or other executive function.

 

 

Full Study Paper: http://www.lifesci.s...and alcohol.pdf

 

 

2. Nitrous Oxide.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/19057896

 

 

 

Enhancement of suggestibility and imaginative ability with nitrous oxide.
RATIONALE:

Imaginative suggestibility, a trait closely related to hypnotic suggestibility, is modifiable under some circumstances. Nitrous oxide (laughing gas) is commonly used for sedation in dentistry and is reported to be more effective when combined with appropriate suggestions.

OBJECTIVE:

The aim of this study was to determine whether nitrous oxide inhalation alters imaginative suggestibility and imagery vividness.

METHODS:

Thirty participants were tested twice in a within-subjects design, once during inhalation of 25% nitrous oxide and once during inhalation of air plus oxygen. Before the study, participants' expectancies regarding the effects of nitrous oxide were assessed. Participants were blinded to drug administration. During each session, participants were verbally administered detailed measures of imagination and suggestibility: the Sheehan-Betts Quality of Mental Imagery scale and the Stanford Hypnotic Susceptibility Scale Form C, minus the hypnotic induction.

RESULTS:

Imaginative suggestibility and imaginative ability (imagery vividness) were both elevated in the nitrous oxide condition. This effect was unrelated to participants' expectations regarding the effects of the drug.

CONCLUSIONS:

Nitrous oxide increased imaginative suggestibility and imaginative ability. Possible explanations of these findings are discussed with respect to the effects of N-methyl-d-aspartate antagonists and to other pharmacological effects upon suggestibility and imagination.

 


Edited by manny, 21 June 2018 - 04:11 PM.


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Posted 09 July 2018 - 03:16 PM

https://www.ncbi.nlm.../pubmed/8728487 Daytime melatonin administration enhances sleepiness and theta/alpha activity in the waking EEG.

Abstract

It is still controversial whether the pineal hormone melatonin can be characterized as a hypnotic. We therefore measured subjective sleepiness and waking EEG power density in the range of 0.25-20 Hz after a single dose of melatonin (5 mg). During an 8 h mini-constant routine protocol, melatonin administered in a double blind cross-over design to healthy young men at 1300 h or 1800 h increased subjective sleepiness, as rated half-hourly on three different scales (Visual Analogue Scale, Akerstedt Sleepiness Symptoms Check List, Akerstedt Sleepiness Scale) and objective fatigue as evidenced by augmented waking EEG power density in the theta/alpha range (5.25-9 Hz). The increase in subjective sleepiness reached significance 40 min and 90 min after melatonin administration (at 1300 h and 1800 h, respectively) and lasted for 3 h (at 1300 h) and 5 h (at 1800 h). The increase in the theta/alpha frequencies of the waking EEG occurred immediately after melatonin ingestion and stayed significantly higher parallel to the higher sleepiness ratings. However, the EEG changes appeared before the subjective symptoms of sleepiness became manifest. There was a significant correlation between salivary melatonin levels and the timing of increased subjective sleepiness. Melatonin had no effects on mood.

 

 


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Posted 01 October 2018 - 09:49 AM

I may have found a winner? Only tested once (for hypnosis), last night before going to sleep, but the results were good. Because usually trying self hypnosis before sleep, still doesn’t help that much for falling into trance. While taking this lavender pill, really relaxed my mind, and thank God there is some great research to back up why it will be beneficial for hypnosis.
 
Here’s the pill I took, it’s a known brand for sleep aids in the UK, and contains 80mg of Lavender oil: https://www.amazon.c...=Lavender kalms
 
Now here is the promising research that shows why it would help with hypnosis: https://www.research...trical_Activity
 
 
It is felt the effects of lavender inhalation on the brain wave activities are well demonstrated in the present study. During inhalation with lavender, the power of theta (4-8 Hz) and alpha (8-13 Hz) activities are significantly increased in all brain regions. This result is consistent with the study of Diego(8)that found after lavender inhalation that frontal alpha power was significantly increased. Furthermore, a study conducted at the University of Occupational and Environmental Health, Kitakyushu Japan(26)used changes of electroencephalogram (EEG) to measure the effects of aromas. The present study found relaxing effects with increases of alpha wave activities after administering lavender, cineol sandalwood, and alpha-pinene. The EEG evidence of relaxation can be seen in various practices such as meditation. Meditation is a way of balancing the body and the mind as well as controlling the mind to experience feelings of peace and relaxation. The study among people meditating can demonstrate similar EEG changes with lavender inhalation, which presented as an increase in theta and alpha activities in the brain during meditation(27). The increase in theta and alpha activities can also be observed even during pre-meditation states in people who frequently practice meditation(28). These results lend support that increases in theta and alpha wave activity causes a range of general relaxation effects and can be induced by a range of chemical and non chemical techniques.

 

So this research paper is confident of the well demonstrated effects lavender has on significantly increasing the theta and alpha activities in all brain regions! And also points to other studies which had similar findings! Great! And this study was using it as aromatherapy, I’ve read somewhere else ingestion has a greater effect and crosses the blood brain barrier well (though I haven’t looked for this study to back up this claim).

 

Whatever the case, my own experience this time and previous times I’ve taken lavender pills for sleep, I have noted I feel a notable relaxation effect without much drowsiness. By chance I took it before trying self hypnosis yesterday (because I rarely do self hypnosis much these days), and felt trance was much more easier to obtain, my mind could truly relax.

 

The only thing I’m hoping is there is no tolerance to it, which I’ve yet to do research into or taken lavender enough to observe myself.

 

Anyway great finding today, anyone interested in self hypnosis and trancing, should try this as an aid.

 



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Posted 24 October 2019 - 04:51 PM

I'm going to add NAC to this list. Other than it being a well rounder for a lot of mental conditions, I think the dulling/calming effect I get from it helps take away the worry whether I'm falling into trance or not, and just helps with falling in to trance because it dulls your thoughts.

 



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Posted 17 December 2019 - 06:27 PM

https://www.ncbi.nlm.../pubmed/2272860

 

EEG correlates of hypnotic susceptibility and hypnotic trance: spectral analysis and coherence.
 
Abstract
EEG was recorded monopolarly at frontal (F3, F4), central (C3, C4) and occipital (O1, O2) derivations during A-B-A conditions of waking rest, hypnosis (rest, arm immobilization, mosquito hallucination, hypnotic dream), and waking rest. Stringently screened on several measures of hypnotic susceptibility, 12 very low hypnotizable and 12 very highly hypnotizable, right-handed undergraduate, subjects participated in one session. Evaluations were Fast-Fourier spectral analysis, EEG coherence between selected derivations and maximum spectral power within EEG bands. In eyes open and closed conditions in waking and hypnosis, highly hypnotizable subjects generated substantially more mean theta power than did low hypnotizable subjects at all occipital, central and frontal locations in almost all conditions of waking and hypnosis, with a larger difference in frontal locations. Both low and high hypnotizables showed increased mean theta power in hypnosis, suggesting an intensification of attentional processes and imagery enhancement. Mean alpha power was never a predictor of hypnotic susceptibility. Interactions with hypnotic susceptibility showed that highly susceptible subjects had more beta activity in the left than right hemispheres, while low susceptible subjects showed only weak asymmetry. No main effects for or interactions between waking/hypnosis and hypnotic level were found for coherence between derivations or maximum spectral power within theta, alpha and beta EEG bands.


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Posted 18 December 2019 - 11:13 AM

I'm going to add sulbutiamine to this list. I've tested a couple of times now, and going into trance is much easier. You just have to take enough that increases your focus, but not your body energy, for me that's 200mg. With increased focus you can intently focus on the words, which eventually puts you into trance, because hypnosis really is an intense focus.

 

Since using sulbutiamine while working out my dosage, I have been trancing really deep. One time I didn't even wake up to the awakener at the end because I was so deep, and when I naturally emerged, I was so groggy and out of it, and realised afterward I was actually experiencing a hypnotic hangover for the first time. It should be noted I was thiamine deficient, but I think sulbutiamine could help healthy people in small doses as long as it heightens their focus a bit.

 

Yesterday I tried a lavender capsule with sulbutiamine for the first time and went deep again.

 

Even though I take a range of supplements in my morning and nigh time stack, if I had to narrow down what I thought the most effective ones for hypnosis would be, it would probably be 200mg sulbutiamine, lavender pill, & 500mg NAC. 



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Posted 29 December 2019 - 03:29 PM

 

EEG recordings were obtained prior to the administration of the drug, I hour postdrug, and every hour thereafter for a 6-hour period. Diphenhydramine and promethazine were categorized as low-energy sedatives wherein frequency analysis revealed an increase in the low-frequency bands (delta and theta 1 to 6 Hz), a decrease in the alpha band (8 to 12 Hz), and a small increase in the higher- frequency range (beta, 18 to 36 Hz). In effect, the EEG pattern reflected predominantly low amplitude, therefore labeled "low

energy," sedation. 

https://apps.dtic.mi.../u2/a258012.pdf

Diphenhydramine which is in Benadryl in the US and Nytol in the U.K.

 

I’ve seen only a couple of comments around the net that it might be useful for assisting trance and hypnosis, so I’m posting it here.



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Posted 29 December 2019 - 10:19 PM

 

Although low-frequency (2-5 Hz) activity increased in both drug conditions from the baseline to the 2.5- to 3-h post-drug interval, the increase following diphenhydramine ingestion was significantly larger.

https://academic.oup...ep-29-7-957.pdf

 

 



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Posted 25 January 2020 - 02:48 AM

Going back to theanine, seems to be working well.



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Posted 11 February 2020 - 01:00 PM

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/31914367

 

HYPNOTIZABILITY-RELATED FAAH C385A POLYMORPHISM: POSSIBLE ENDOCANNABINOID CONTRIBUTION TO SUGGESTION-INDUCED ANALGESIA.
Abstract

Fatty acid amide hydrolase (FAAH) degrades the endogenous endocannabinoid (eCB) anandamide and might be involved in the response to suggestions of analgesia in subjects with high hypnotizability scores (highs). Since the A allele of the FAAH C385A polymorphism (rs324420) is associated with lower FAAH activity, it was studied in 21 highs, 66 low hypnotizable individuals (lows), and 172 individuals not selected for hypnotizability (controls) representing the general population. No significant difference was observed among groups, but the A allele frequency showed a significant trend to increase from lows to controls and from controls to highs. Since eCB small differences can be amplified by eCB interactions with other neurotransmitters, a contribution of the FAAH polymorphism to the highs' analgesia should not be excluded.

 



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Posted 13 March 2020 - 11:27 PM

https://www.ncbi.nlm.../pubmed/1395410

Abstract

Scopolamine hydrobromide disrupts the learned behavior of rats in a predictable manner. Physiological saline mimics to some extent the effect of the drug when the two substances are alternately administered in a series of injections. This placebo effect appears to be an instance of simple Pavlovian conditioning.

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Scopolamine is the anti chologenic drug used to induce dementia type symptoms in healthy people in studies.

 

It is also used in high dose by gangs of thieves in South America to mind control victims who will do anything they say and give their possessions over willing, aka Devils Breath.

 

It’s also sold in tablets of 300mcg for motion sickness in the U.K. under the brand wells.

 

So maybe theres a possibility taking a Kwells tablet before a self hypnosis session may facilitate trance and suggestibility?

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted 14 March 2020 - 12:59 AM

I do not think supplements will help much, lets say they do put in you an alpha state of mind, but then when you go off them you will just return to your normal state, because being in alpha state is to be calm so you will eventually yourself go back to your normal self unless you can learn it. Maybe a combination of supplements and meditation so you can learn it yourself.


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Posted 14 March 2020 - 10:32 AM

https://en.m.wikiped...iki/Truth_serum
 

The United States Office of Strategic Services(OSS) experimented with the use of mescalinescopolamine, and marijuana as possible truth drugs during World War II. They concluded that the effects were not much different from those of alcohol: subjects became more talkative but that did not mean they were more truthful. Like hypnosis, there were also issues of suggestibility and interviewer influence. Cases involving scopolamine resulted in a mixture of testimonies both for and against those suspected, at times directly contradicting each other.[2][31]



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Posted 14 March 2020 - 10:58 AM

I do not think supplements will help much, lets say they do put in you an alpha state of mind, but then when you go off them you will just return to your normal state, because being in alpha state is to be calm so you will eventually yourself go back to your normal self unless you can learn it. Maybe a combination of supplements and meditation so you can learn it yourself.

In my experience they can help, theanine and lavender being the best so far.

 

However some people are just much more easily able to trance than others. I’ve never been able to consistently trance with self hypnosis or make the state instantly triggable, though over time I have generally got better at trancing then before.

 

I think it really depends on the individual and their psychology, it’s the barriers they put up. I was heavily OCD and paranoid, the latter I didn’t even recognise before. Both of these things make it hard to relax the mind, but I’ve been able to chip away at my fears bit by bit overtime making trance a little easier. So I think self hypnosis might be hard for those who have trouble switching off or relaxing.

 

Another thing I will note is recently I’ve been taking 5-htp, and I’ve been able to stop a lot of my mental problems occurring, the main one being emotional flashbacks/emotional stability. And one thing I noticed when I use to trance before 5-htp was I would twitch like hell when going into trance (arm flinging) and it would stop the process. While I think since taking 5-htp these twitches have been  less. So I think neurotransmitters imbalance such as low serotonin could also hinder trancing.



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Posted 17 April 2020 - 05:56 PM

https://www.scienced...028390886901437

Effect of propranolol on cortical electrical activity in conscious and anesthetized rats

 

Abstract

The effect of propranolol on electrocorticographic (ECoG) activity was studied in conscious and anesthetized rats. Cortical electrodes and femoral venous cannulae were implanted 5 days before the experiments. The ECoG was recorded continuously and analyzed to different frequency bands, 2 hr before and 4 hr after the administration of propranolol. After a single infusion of 2 and 5 mg/kg or 5 consecutive daily doses of 2 mg/kg propranolol, frequent bursts of large amplitude 6–7 c/sec wave in the ECoG were observed. This ECoG phenomenon lasted between 60–100 min after the infusion of propranolol and was entirely abolished by pentobarbital anesthesia. Frequency analysis of the ECoG showed an immediate shift from predominantly delta (Δ 0.5–4 c/sec) activity to overwhelmingly theta (θ4–8 c/sec) activity following the infusion of propranolol. It is suggested that these changes in ECoG induced by propranolol are related to the sleep-enhancing and tranquilizing effects of propranolol.

 


Edited by Jesus is King, 17 April 2020 - 05:58 PM.


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Posted 19 April 2020 - 09:12 PM

japanese tea, gotu kola, Ca Mg, turmeric (with food, and black pepper).

 

Diffuse oils of lavendar[1], patchouli[2], mint, Zizyphus jujuba[3], and Korean fir[4].

 

General "nerual tonic" diet as well... agaricus, allium/cruciferous vegetables, basmati rice, dark beans, brazil nuts, oysters/sardines, kefir and fermented cucumbers.



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Posted 21 April 2020 - 08:35 AM

Thank you for the contribution. 

 

The thing I'm leaning to now, is making my morning stack give me a cool, calm, collective mental energy throughout the day, rather than trying to trick it just prior to a session. The only thing I would still use prior to a session is lavander oil. It can have a strong calming mental effect, but when it doesn't work at all, there's no unpleasant side effects either (unlike the agitation of theanine).

 

For me OCD is definitely my main problem, I just have a hard time mentally relaxing. I have high hopes for turmeric/curcumin extract which is now a mainstay in my morning stack (only started taking a few weeks ago), it seems to correct a lot of thing mentally for me, specifically serotonin.

 

I'm also experimenting with a passionflower complex in my morning stack, which has an equivalent of 250mg of passiflora, lemon balm, and avena sativa per tablet. Definitely calming, but I'm not 100% sure on this yet for my mental concentration. But definitely mentally calming.

 

One thing I've never mentioned was sulbutiamine actually helped me trance a few times. While this is considered generally stimulating, the ability to increase my concentration on a single thought, in this case the voice/words of the self hypnosis file, helped me trance deep a few times. Hypnosis really is the balance between letting go mentally and the ability to focus your concentration. 

 

I also think hypnosis is harder when you're tired, and trancing at 7pm is better in my case, then trancing before bed for example. It's a balance between concentration and mental relaxation (without sedation).

 

And while I think the passionflower complex may be dropped in the future (still requires more experimentation), I think the turmeric may be enough to correct my mentality for trancing, with a little help with lavender just prior to the session at 7pm. The only problem is I was sick with the coronavirus the past 23 days, and only added the turmeric during that time, so I haven't been able to experiment with self hypnosis properly during that time, but will be trying again in the coming weeks.



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Posted 21 April 2020 - 12:28 PM

Gotu kola may we worth a try for OCD.  Inositol has seen some promise in OCD, and you can significantly adjust that just by dietary sources

 

I would also look into Magnolia officinalis, it's often confused with lemon balm (Melissa officinalis).  It's best just to try one supplement at a time until you are sure about it, otherwise it's not possible to evaluate different effects.



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Posted 30 April 2020 - 09:27 AM

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC4367473/

 

A Diet Enriched with Curcumin Impairs Newly Acquired and Reactivated Fear Memories

 

Abstract

Curcumin, a yellow-pigment compound found in the popular Indian spice turmeric (Curcuma longa), has been extensively investigated for its anti-inflammatory, chemopreventative, and antidepressant properties. Here, we examined the efficacy of dietary curcumin at impairing the consolidation and reconsolidation of a Pavlovian fear memory, a widely studied animal model of traumatic memory formation in posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD). We show that a diet enriched with 1.5% curcumin prevents the training-related elevation in the expression of the immediate early genes (IEGs) Arc/Arg3.1 and Egr-1 in the lateral amygdala (LA) and impairs the ‘consolidation' of an auditory Pavlovian fear memory; short-term memory (STM) is intact, whereas long-term memory (LTM) is significantly impaired. Next, we show that dietary curcumin impairs the ‘reconsolidation' of a recently formed auditory Pavlovian fear memory; fear memory retrieval (reactivation) and postreactivation (PR)-STM are intact, whereas PR-LTM is significantly impaired. Additional experiments revealed that dietary curcumin is also effective at impairing the reconsolidation of an older, well-consolidated fear memory. Furthermore, we observed that fear memories that fail to reconsolidate under the influence of dietary curcumin are impaired in an enduring manner; unlike extinguished fear memories, they are not subject to reinstatement or renewal. Collectively, our findings indicate that a diet enriched with curcumin is capable of impairing fear memory consolidation and reconsolidation processes, findings that may have important clinical implications for the treatment of disorders such as PTSD that are characterized by unusually strong and persistently reactivated fear memories.

 

 

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This is a brilliant study. While it's not about getting you into trance, curcumin sure has the possibility to help change the chains/links in your brain while doing hypnosis, because hypnosis basically comes down to pavlovian theory, trigger/reaction.



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Posted 30 April 2020 - 09:50 AM

Also I had a very important epiphany about trancing last week, and since that epiphany I've been able to trance much better. It's so simple, but so true.

 

You hear the more you go into the trance state, the more it becomes second nature. This is not necessarily true for everyone, and I'll prove it with the best example.

 

As someone who has accessed the sleep state a 1/3 of my entire life, I still have trouble falling asleep quickly. And yet shouldn't someone who's spent a 1/3 of their entire life sleeping be good at getting to sleep by now? 

 

And thats the key difference. Being in that state and getting there are 2 different things. It doesn't matter how much you practice being in the sleep state (you've done it a 3rd of your entire life), it doesn't necessarily make you good at getting there quickly. The same goes for trancing. Doesn't matter how many times I've been in the trance state over the years. Getting there won't necessarily become second nature, just like falling asleep.

 

However it is possible to get better at falling asleep and trancing. You just need to shift your brain or awareness to that feeling of that altered state and you naturally go into it. I can recognise a deep trance in my thoughts/memory, so what I’ve been doing lately is taking 2 lavender pills, 2 turmeric pills, then listen to the file, and focus my awareness on that previous trance memory, and it’s worked a few times.

 

Time will tell if anything comes out of this or not, but I’ve got lots of things I’m ready to test it on, starting with smoking.


Edited by Jesus is King, 30 April 2020 - 10:00 AM.






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