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[ekaitz]

I read an article from Dr.Sircus a few weeks ago related to Hydrogen use for health and antiaging purposes. He highlights hydrogen inhalers like this one,

 

https://hydroproduct...oduct/aquacure/

 

generates about 75 liters per hour (LPH) of mixed hydrogen and oxygen gases. That is 1.25 liters a minute making this the winning machine with the strongest output. Part of that output is oxygen. The AquaCure infuses water with hydrogen to at least 1 ppm and up to 1.6 ppm of hydrogen (depending on the pressure).  It takes about 10 minutes to fully infuse a liter (quart) of water.

 

 

"Hydrogen gas inhalation machines will be one of the most important purchases one can make in terms of healing horsepower and some of them will even make your hydrogen water as they provide hydrogen and oxygen gas."

 

@H2enthusiast whats your take on these ones?

 

 

Edited by ekaitz, 31 January 2018 - 06:23 PM.

[H2enthusiast]

The % of H2 is not listed in the gas delivery, and there is no evidence to support Mark's claims of combining the gasses. Remember, he isn't a medical doctor or researcher and I believe fled the USA due to illegal medical claims. That isn't to say everything he says is incorrect or products he endorses are not good, just be skeptical- which is always a good rule of thumb.

 

If it is less than 50% H2, then the model providing 600ml/min of H2 at 99.9999% H2 is a higher dose. Due to the differences in bio-availability super high concentrations in water, or saline are still far more powerful delivery methods. There are also expensive apparatus from Japan that can get 7~ PPM saturation after a few hours of prep in water on top of the products out of North America.

 

A lot more evidence and research is needed but I would currently suggest high dose inhalation at maybe 10min sessions, so adding up the volume per hour may be meaningless but flow rate and % of H2 per minute being important.

I read an article from Dr.Sircus a few weeks ago related to Hydrogen use for health and antiaging purposes. He highlights hydrogen inhalers like this one,

 

https://hydroproduct...oduct/aquacure/

 

generates about 75 liters per hour (LPH) of mixed hydrogen and oxygen gases. That is 1.25 liters a minute making this the winning machine with the strongest output. Part of that output is oxygen. The AquaCure infuses water with hydrogen to at least 1 ppm and up to 1.6 ppm of hydrogen (depending on the pressure).  It takes about 10 minutes to fully infuse a liter (quart) of water.

 

 

"Hydrogen gas inhalation machines will be one of the most important purchases one can make in terms of healing horsepower and some of them will even make your hydrogen water as they provide hydrogen and oxygen gas."

 

@H2enthusiast whats your take on these ones?

 

[AnahimSkywalker]

Forget all this expensive crap and low results;

theres a good vid on Youtube regarding this simple process of making your own high-ppm with 2 easily found items: magnesium rods and malic acid. 

I believe Glen Ingram has a post on this somewhere on this site.

[meatsauce]

Forget all this expensive crap and low results;

theres a good vid on Youtube regarding this simple process of making your own high-ppm with 2 easily found items: magnesium rods and malic acid. 

I believe Glen Ingram has a post on this somewhere on this site.

Long process. I'm testing pressurizing water with hydrogen gas from a tank soon. It might be 3-4 times stronger than above and way quicker. 

[adamh]

I bought my own hydrogen tank and use it to fill a foil balloon. Regular balloons will leak all the hydrogen out overnight or in a short while. I take a big breath of it and hold as long as possible. I can feel an effect.

[meatsauce]

I bought my own hydrogen tank and use it to fill a foil balloon. Regular balloons will leak all the hydrogen out overnight or in a short while. I take a big breath of it and hold as long as possible. I can feel an effect.

Try nitrous oxide instead

[recon]

There seems to be many portable hydrogen water bottle machines on Amazon. Some goes as low as $40. I wonder if they’ll be sufficient as entry products.

Edited by recon, 12 February 2018 - 09:49 AM.

[meatsauce]

I just got the hydrogen test drops and The hydrogen water Im making with my tank is coming out at 4ppm with refrigerator cold water. The $6000 machine makes 2.5ppm.  Im seeing what I can put together to offer a system that does this at a really nice price. 

Edited by meatsauce, 16 February 2018 - 08:54 PM.

[Daniel Cooper]

I just got the hydrogen test drops and The hydrogen water Im making with my tank is coming out at 4ppm with refrigerator cold water. The $6000 machine makes 2.5ppm.  Im seeing what I can put together to offer a system that does this at a really nice price. 

 

 

Can you describe your system?

[ryukenden]

I read somewhere that H2 water can increase Ghrelin production and it may thus increase the risk of cancer.

What do you guys think?

[bosharpe]

Someone is riding that Ill informed button like seabiscuit the horse 

[meatsauce]

 

I just got the hydrogen test drops and The hydrogen water Im making with my tank is coming out at 4ppm with refrigerator cold water. The $6000 machine makes 2.5ppm.  Im seeing what I can put together to offer a system that does this at a really nice price. 

 

 

Can you describe your system?

 

 

I am pressurizing a one or two liter bottle with about 60 psi of hydrogen gas and shaking it for 20 seconds. Its like the videos I posted earlier. 

[meatsauce]

I read somewhere that H2 water can increase Ghrelin production and it may thus increase the risk of cancer.

What do you guys think?

H2 is anti cancer. 

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/18175936

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/21042740

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/19192719

[sindre]

hey, could you send me the pm of the two companies that make this.

[ryukenden]

I read somewhere that H2 water can increase Ghrelin production and it may thus increase the risk of cancer.

What do you guys think?

H2 is anti cancer.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/18175936

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/21042740

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/19192719

Okay but if you look at to the end of the following publication, you will see there are concerns Re: upregulatioj of cancer.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...ubmed/25649854/

[meatsauce]

 

 

I read somewhere that H2 water can increase Ghrelin production and it may thus increase the risk of cancer.

What do you guys think?

H2 is anti cancer.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/18175936

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/21042740

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/19192719

Okay but if you look at to the end of the following publication, you will see there are concerns Re: upregulatioj of cancer.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...ubmed/25649854/

 

Not sure but we have scientific studies vs a concern. 

 

When I drink h2 water I don't feel the effects of ghrelin

[ryukenden]

I read somewhere that H2 water can increase Ghrelin production and it may thus increase the risk of cancer.

What do you guys think?

H2 is anti cancer.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/18175936

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/21042740

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/19192719

Okay but if you look at to the end of the following publication, you will see there are concerns Re: upregulatioj of cancer.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...ubmed/25649854/

Not sure but we have scientific studies vs a concern.

When I drink h2 water I don't feel the effects of ghrelin

The concerns are also based on scientific studies. Not just concerns without scientific base.

[AnahimSkywalker]

Be careful with the magnesium rod / malic acid method.

I've cracked two bottles so far. These bottles were the lever-latch type caps that are used in the video (one was a Grolsch and the other was a maple syrup):

The first one was when tried to cool down the bottle with hot water in it.

The second one simply had too much pressure built up inside.

 

Recommendations: Try to find a stronger/higher quality bottle. Add only like a teaspoon of malic acid. Use room temperature water. Don't mix it around after filling with water. Let bottle sit for about an hour or two set inside a waterproof bag or bubble envelope (the longer you wait the worse the taste, although it will taste somewhat acidic) and drink it fast. Keep the bottle closed whenever possible. (I think a refill with water after use will help keep the rods from oxidising.)  

[AnahimSkywalker]

Be careful with the magnesium rod / malic acid method.

I've cracked two bottles so far. These bottles were the lever-latch type caps that are used in the video (one was a Grolsch and the other was a maple syrup):

The first one was when tried to cool down the bottle with hot water in it.

The second one simply had too much pressure built up inside.

 

Easy fast method:

Try to find a stronger/higher quality bottle.

A level teaspoon of malic acid is lots.

Use filtered room temperature water.

Don't mix it around after filling with water.

Let bottle sit for about an hour or two set inside a waterproof bag or bubble envelope (the longer you wait the worse the taste, although it will taste somewhat acidic) and drink it fast.

Keep the bottle closed whenever possible. (I think a refill with water after use will help keep the rods from oxidising.)  

Between servings, I generally leave the rods in the bottle and fill with water and cap it to store. 

If the rods get some oxidation, put more than a teaspoon of malic acid in and let it react with the cap open until the rods are clean again. Then dump it out.

[H2enthusiast]

For all you DIY'rs, be safe out there. Likely this individual was trying to split off H2 for fuel however we do not know

 

https://www.brisbane...421-p4zavs.html

[osris]

How does one take hydrogen in tablet form—i.e. how much water should a tablet be dissolved in? And how many tablets do you take each day? Some hydrogen tablet vendors say up to 4 tablets should be taken daily. This will be costly seeing as an average bottle of 30 tablets is around $55.

[joesixpack]

For all you DIY'rs, be safe out there. Likely this individual was trying to split off H2 for fuel however we do not know

 

https://www.brisbane...421-p4zavs.html

Was this the guy on here trying to save .60 dollar on H2 water? If so, not a good idea. Let the Pros figure out how to do it.